View Full Version : Sony KDF-60XBR950 vs. DLP.... which is a better HD picture?


MarcDC
10-21-2004, 02:09 PM

BMWM5
10-21-2004, 03:10 PM
Triple chip, DLP wins but hi $$$. I would wait for th eprices of D-ILA 1050 to come down or Sonys new Super LCD "SXRD chip,1920 x 1080!"

Brian

BMWM5
10-21-2004, 03:12 PM
http://www.audiorevolution.com/news/0203/27.sony.shtml

Reggie
10-22-2004, 05:58 AM
<ul><li><a href="http://www.audiorevolution.com/news/0203/27.sony.shtml">Link</a></li></ul>

Reggie
10-22-2004, 06:05 AM
I really like it a lot. The DLPs can do the blacks a little better than LCD but the differences are getting real narrow. Also the Color Wheel on Dlps can cause a rainbow effect - most people do not see it - but about 10% or so can. This occurs when one turns their head slightly.

I think you can not go wrong with either purchase. The new Sony technology recommed by BMWM5 will be expensive (~10K for the rear projection tv coming out soon and $25K for the front projection now)<ul><li><a href="http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KDF_60XBR950/4505-6484_7-30596951.html">Reviews on the Sony</a></li></ul>

Rubberduckie
10-22-2004, 07:02 AM
at work. You can read up on technology until you are blue in the face, but nothing beats putting it too the test. 90% of the time they are displaying HD programming courtesy of DirecTV, the rest of the time a DVD signel is fed into them.
Both look completely superb with HD or a well etched DVD (Bug's Life, Monsters Inc...) and very decent with DVD movies recorded with film, but despite the picture quality between the two being a close call, the LCD picture (on the XBR or regular offerings from Sony and Panasonic) looks the most natural. It's almost splitting hairs, because if you own either you'll be happy either way, but after a while DLP looks a little fragmented. This is likely to be related to the fact you are only really seeing one color at a time. The light produced by it's lamp only shines through one color segment at a time of it's archaic spinning wheel. The wheel spins fast enough to make you think you are seeing all colors at once, but after a while, compared with the LCD it has a somewhat broken-up effect to it's image. The only other issues I have with DLP is the rainbow effect. I didn't notice it so much at first, but every time my eyes move across the room and there's a DLP TV in the scope, I see the rainbow. It's not good.
The new JVC HD-ILA sets look good too. The three chips it uses don't make any where near as much of a difference a it does on the better Sony camcorders over regular CCD Sony technology, but it is an impressive TV. Much like LCD with a picture that's a tad brighter. Good frame around the screen too.

Dave M
10-22-2004, 07:46 AM

Reggie
10-22-2004, 08:39 AM

Dave M
10-22-2004, 12:54 PM

Rubberduckie
10-22-2004, 05:26 PM

Ray Khan
10-23-2004, 06:57 PM
is it osmething done from the factory and it's hit or miss if you get a good one? Is it something you can so and control and have to do often? Is it an automatic thing that the TV does?

I'm going to pick up a KDF-60WF655 in a month or 2 locally. Got a pretty good price from an authorized distributor.

Reggie
10-25-2004, 07:28 AM
The first is buying a DVD that will give you access to limited TV calibrating - setting color and contrast and brightness. These DVDs are great because they teach you a lot. (If you are technical at all - and even if you are not - you gain an appreciation)

The second level there are some adjustments that are not accessable by the front of the TV (or remote). These adjustments must be done by someone who is certified and has some expensive test equipment that very few of us would have. These adjustments are recommended if you really are a perfectionist and you want to really get the most out of your TV - and like to consider your set up a home theater.

Email me if you want any more details.

I have to say I waited too long with my Pioneer elite RPTV and the tubes went out after five years because I had the brightness cranked up too much. I have calibrated my new Sony 40" tube with a DVD and like the picture much better. If I ever get my basement set up - I will do that one and get a tech to set that one up.

Reggie
10-25-2004, 10:10 AM
<ul><li><a href="http://www.homecentric.com/video.htm">Link</a></li></ul>

Ray Khan
10-25-2004, 03:31 PM
so do people get the professional calibration on new TV's or just after some use? I'm 90% sure I'm getting the 60" sony LCD rear proj right now.

Reggie
10-26-2004, 06:34 AM
You really do not have to worry about the burn-in or degradation issues like with a tube or plasma - where the longevity would be compromised if the picture out of the box was too bright.

Frankly - I would buy one of the A/V set-up DVDs and set up the TV as best you can. Then call a guy in to have the set calibrated when you feel comfortable. I would make sure you look for someone who is local and has good recommendations. The AVS Forum is a good place to look for someone - if you do not have a recommendation from anyone you trust.

Ray Khan
10-26-2004, 10:03 AM

Reggie
10-26-2004, 10:11 AM

Dave M
10-27-2004, 12:42 PM