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Pelican Pete
10-15-2004, 05:06 AM
Is there any reason to connect the composite video cable or analog audio cables?

I know that in the early days of s-video, S-VHS VCRs would play s-video signals through the s-video output, and standard video signals through the composite output, without any mixing signals. But the DVD player should play everything through the s-video output, correct?


Thanks,
P.

Reggie
10-15-2004, 05:42 AM
but your are right there is no need to use the composite cables - unless you have a VCR that you want to use to record from the DVD and it only takes composite.

Rubberduckie
10-15-2004, 06:16 AM
Often, some of the less-than-lousey DVD players have better D/A convertors than some receivers. So when you are playing music via your DVD player, you may prefer the sound from the analog audio out (or movies if you have a 6ch. out on the back of your DVD). If your DVD player is SACD or DVD-Audio, you definately want to connect the analog outs, unless you have no compatible discs.
If your TV has a really good 3D Y/C comb filter, you may not se a difference between S-Video and composite as such filters offer the same benefits of an S-Video cable.

As reggie suggested, Component cable hook-up is worth doing (the red, green and blue output). It yields the best results.

Pelican Pete
10-15-2004, 06:28 AM
The DVD player is the original Sony DVP-S7000. It sounds about equivalent to my DDEv1.1 D/A converter that I have in my audio system. It's no Theta, but the analog output is pretty good for a mass market player. I don't know how it compares with some of the newer models. Review of subsequent Sony models all said that the S7000 sounded better than the newer ones.

I think that my Yamaha receiver has a better D/A converter, so I just use the digital output of the DVD player.

Regarding the video, I know that component is better than S-video. But my projector does not have component inputs. It does have an RGBHV input, but I would have to convert the signal because it is not compatible with RGBHV.

I am, however, using a line doubler between the receiver and the projector, so I am going in through the RGBHV outputs. Not quite as good as true progressive. But certainly adequate for now.


Thanks again,
P.

Reggie
10-15-2004, 06:36 AM
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Pelican Pete
10-15-2004, 06:46 AM
VGA signals are basically the same as RGB signals. They can be split or combined using a VGA-5-wire breakout cable.

I would need a component -&gt; RGB (or VGA) transcoder to use a progressive DVD player with my current projector.

However, I figure I'll wait on that. When I get a new projector I'll get the progressive DVD player at the same time. And hopefully both will be HD as well.
(Actually if I wire it up correctly, and got the necessary hardware, the projector will do 720p HD signals.)

Thanks again!
-- P.

Reggie
10-15-2004, 06:54 AM
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Pelican Pete
10-15-2004, 06:59 AM
If I already had a progressive DVD player, I would be all over that!
Who makes it? I did not see any brand names on that page.

Maybe I'll put it on my Christmas list, along with a new progressive DVD player.

-- P.

Rubberduckie
10-15-2004, 07:28 AM
The DVPS7000 is a fine player and very probably has a superior-sounding analog output than if you use the Yamaha's (unless it's an RXZ9 - which Yamaha do you have?).
I have an RXV2400 and it's D/A's speck well on paper, but suffer at the hands of being in receiver housing (huge transformer an all), and my Philips DVD962SA offers better sound with it's own D/A conversion. I now bypass the Yamaha for music and go straight into my Musical Fidelity A300.
You have spend silly money to get better sound from a disc spinner than your 7000.

Rubberduckie
10-15-2004, 07:39 AM

RKA
10-15-2004, 11:16 AM
:) just had to get that off my chest!

Pelican Pete
10-15-2004, 12:14 PM
Or is it a Theta preamp? Whichever one it is, I would assume that you are using the coax output to the Theta.

Have you ever done an A/B comparison between the 7000 DA converters and the Theta?

I had compared it years ago with my DDE 1.1 and it compared favorably.

-- P.

RKA
10-18-2004, 12:45 PM
:-)

I'm using a coax out of the 7000, and if I wanted to do analog, then I would be introducing the Theta A/D's into the path which hoses any comparison I could make. There is no pass-through feature AFAIK.

Pelican Pete
10-20-2004, 04:39 AM
Raj, first, I hope you know I was kidding. :-)
Of course I respect your opinion. Especially since we have the same taste in DVD players.

That being said, I am curious what you meant about introducing the Theta's A/D into the path.

OH -- I think I get it now. Your Theta is a preamp, not just a D/A converter. So you would have to hook up the analog outs of the Sony to the A/D of the Theta. I get it.
All of the inputs of the Theta get converted to digital??? Usually a high-end component such as that would allow the user to bypass all the processing.
Whatever...
I use the coax out of my Sony as well. And I'm only going to a Yamaha receiver.

CHeers,
P.

Pelican Pete
10-20-2004, 04:46 AM
Out of my receiver, the s-video is connected to my projector, and the composite output is connected to a 27" TV which is just for watching broadcast -- news, FoodTV, and that sort of thing, and for when I don't want to fire up the projector.

I found out that my receiver does not pass composite signals down the s-video output, nor does it pass s-video down the composite output (I knew this, but somehow forgot when I was connecting the TV).
So if we want to watch TV, or a DVD or VHS through the stero system, then the video has to go through the composite video outputs.

--P.

Reggie
10-20-2004, 05:51 AM

RKA
10-20-2004, 08:17 AM
I was just goofing! :-P

It's been so long since I've set up the Theta that I can't remember anymore. I truly don't think they built an analog pass through for this preamp. I remember being a little perplexed by this when I set it up, but since I didn't have any plans use a CD player that had higher quality AD's than what was included with the Theta, I didn't get too upset over it. I'll have to go back and RTFM to figure out what the story is.