<center><img src="http://gallery.audiworld.com/albums/album18/S6060001.sized.jpg"></center><p>They aren't fog lights, actually. They are daytime running lights that can be programmed by the MMI system to be on at all times. The caveat is, when you switch on the headlights, they turn off. Would be nice to have both at the same time, but there is a federal motor vehicle standard that prevents it, apparently. These led's are available in usa, but i'm not sure about canada.
quote..unquote..I heard this from a little birdy...
09-07-2006, 12:28 PM
<center><img src="http://stan.jirman.com/car/industrial1/0005-b.jpg"></center><p>In the "normal" C6 A6, when you turn on the headlights, the DRL bulbs stay on. Same in the B7. So that explanation sounds bogus.
09-07-2006, 12:45 PM
I am telling you that with the new S6 it won't be available. I know nothing of any rules myself..so I am no help there. BTW, I heard this not from just some "guy"..but from an internal resource.
09-07-2006, 02:24 PM
09-07-2006, 02:39 PM
I am just pointing out that your source is in conflict with reality; if there is a federal rule, then their own products (B7 in the pictured case) is in violation of these federal rules. And if there isn't such a federal rule, then your source is blowing smoke, probably because someone is in turn blowing smoke up their orifice.
I would not dare to argue with you since how could I possibly win, Steve :)Â* but I am a person of logic and so I like to point out inconsistencies - be it a movie or some corporate BS.
09-07-2006, 02:47 PM
Maybe it has something to do with the brightness of the LED DRL lights combined with the regular lights. I hate it when people blast their fog lights even when there is zero fog and zero rain. With the LEDs, it's probably even more distracting to oncoming drivers.
09-07-2006, 03:51 PM
If it's like the A4 to S4 fitment then it will take some modification. Could always go with the S6 bumper but then it has flared fenders that could make things difficult again.
09-07-2006, 03:53 PM
09-07-2006, 07:14 PM
S5.5.11(a) Any pair of lamps on the front of a passenger car, multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, or bus, whether or not required by this standard, other than parking lamps or fog lamps, may be wired to be automatically activated, as determined by the manufacturer of the vehicle, in a steady burning state as daytime running lamps (DRLs) and to be automatically deactivated when the headlamp control is in any "on" position, and as otherwise determined by the manufacturer of the vehicle, provided that each such lamp:
(1) Has a luminous intensity not less than 500 candela at test point H-V, nor more than 3,000 candela at any location in the beam, when tested in accordance with Section S11 of this standard, unless it is:
(i) A lower beam headlamp intended to operate as a DRL at full voltage, or at a voltage lower than used to operate it as a lower beam headlamp; or
(ii) An upper beam headlamp intended to operate as a DRL, whose luminous intensity at test point H-V is not more than 7,000 candela, and which is mounted not higher than 864 mm above the road surface as measured from the center of the lamp with the vehicle at curb weight;
(2) Is permanently marked "DRL" on its lens in letters not less than 3 mm high, unless it is optically combined with a headlamp;
(3) Is designed to provide the same color as the other lamp in the pair, and that is one of the following colors as defined in SAE Standard J578 MAY88: White, white to yellow, white to selective yellow, selective yellow, or yellow;
(4) If not optically combined with a turn signal lamp, is located so that the distance from its lighted edge to the optical center of the nearest turn signal lamp is not less than 100 mm, unless:
(i) The luminous intensity of the DRL is not more than 2,600 candela at any location in the beam and the turn signal meets the requirements of S18.104.22.168; or
(ii) (For a passenger car, multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, or bus that is manufactured before October 1, 1995, and which uses an upper beam headlamp as a DRL as specified in paragraph S5.5.11(a)(1)(ii)) the luminous intensity of the DRL is greater than 2,600 candela at any location in the beam and the turn signal lamp meets the requirements of S22.214.171.124; or
(iii) The DRL is optically combined with a lower beam headlamp and the turn signal lamp meets the requirements of S126.96.36.199; or
(iv) The DRL is deactivated when the turn signal or hazard warning signal lamp is activated.
(5) If optically combined with a turn signal lamp, is automatically deactivated as a DRL when the turn signal lamp or hazard warning lamp is activated, and automatically reactivated as a DRL when the turn signal lamp or hazard warning lamp is deactivated.
(b) Any pair of lamps that are not required by this standard and are not optically combined with any lamps that are required by this standard, and which are used as DRLs to fulfill the specifications of S5.5.11(a), shall be mounted at the same height, which shall be not more than 1.067 m above the road surface measured from the center of the lamp on the vehicle at curb weight, and shall be symmetrically disposed about the vertical centerline of the vehicle.<ul><li><a href="http://www.washingtonwatchdog.org/documents/cfr/title49/part571.html">CFR/Title49/Part571 subsection 5.5.11(a)</a></li></ul>
09-07-2006, 07:50 PM
Then I guess the B7 Audis are in clear violation of that article, as shown in my picture of a stock S4.
09-08-2006, 05:03 AM
The smaller upper bulb is the one that turns on with the park lights, the middle bulb is the daytime running light. You can even see it in the photo. Check out it one night, turn on the park lights only and look which bulb is lit. Then turn the lights completely off but leave the daytime running lights on, you will see the middle larger bulb is lit.
09-08-2006, 08:35 PM
So I guess one is allowed to have two pairs of parking lights: the turn signals and the tiny bulb. Or three pairs, as is the case with bimmers with their angel eyes.
09-09-2006, 04:03 PM
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/42603/a6avant-side2.jpg"></center><p>If not, I'm not complaining. Aftermarket anyone?