I am in the Army, stationed in Germany. I was working the process to order/buy a A6 4.2, but ran into a major deal killer: the 130mph speed limiter. This defeats the whole purpose of buying the car here, and can actually be dangerous. Say, for example, I was in the left lane of A9 going from Munich to Nurnberg, passing some slower traffic. Foot to the floor, trying to clear the lane for the Porsche Turbo closing in from behind. Suddenly, my car hits the limiter, and I can't accelerate anymore. If the lane to the right is still not clear, I have no where to go, and the Porsche guy will be in a bad place too, since he won't expect me to have suddenly ceased the expected acceleration needed to clear the lane and get out of his way. At a minimum, he'll get to test his PCCBs! Worse case scenario: death and destruction all over the autobahn.
So, not knowing who the vendors are for such things for Audis, I am asking if anyone can point me to any chip sellers that have something available for the new cars that will, at a minimum, remove this limiter?
11-16-2004, 05:37 AM
of this problem.
11-16-2004, 05:45 AM
It's a computer program people are using to remove the limiter on other cars. Also, the limiter may be nothing more than marketing material. The B6 S4s shipped to the US did not have the speed limiter activated in the engine computer, and have seen speeds of 150+ on the track.
11-16-2004, 06:12 AM
It is anything like the VAG-COM that the VW guys are using to hack into to "O/S" of the Touaregs and change all kinds of settings?
11-16-2004, 07:07 AM
From what I understand, VAG-COM lets you access and set all the codes and settings that VW/Audi intended to be accessible to a dealer. Lemmiwinks on the other hand, lets you access codes and settings that were supposed to be accessible to the factory only.
11-16-2004, 07:44 AM
11-16-2004, 01:21 PM
The A6 brochure says "Maximum speed electronically limited to 130 mph in the U.S."
That leads me to believe that cars built for markets other than the U.S. may not have the limiter. It's worth calling Audi about, I think.
11-16-2004, 01:22 PM
11-16-2004, 02:45 PM
EU Audi A6 05's are limited to 155mph (250kmh). Don't know about US models.
11-17-2004, 03:01 AM
Yes, it would be a U.S. Spec car. They are available for purchanse through special dealers to military and diplomatic people here on official orders. Since I only have 18 months left on this assignment, it would make no sense to buy a German spec car. It is legal for me to own and operate a U.S. spec car here for the time I am here on orders. We have special plates and inspections for just military people here.
11-17-2004, 03:03 AM
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I would be buying a U.S. spec car through a special overseas military sales program. When my tour is completed, I would then be able to bring the car back to the U.S.
11-17-2004, 03:14 AM
Errr, MTM? A tuner, I guess? OK, good suggestion, since it now seems that this is something that can be manipulated seperately within the existing programming, and wouldn't require a new chip or ECU. I'll just need to find someone who has the equipment and is willing to do this.
For those of you with no experience in Germany, the TUV and its related laws and regulations are very strict. ANY accessory you buy for your car will come with the certification paperwork, and that form must be kept with the car at all times. If you put ANYTHING on that is not certified for your car, you can and will get a ticket and hefty fine. There was something on TV over the weekend about "Underground Tuners" (basically kids who are into what we would call "ricing" their cars) who put all kinds of stuff on their cars without getting proper approval. The story was about a new crackdown on this, and they showed one kid getting the big bust from the Polizei. The cop was going over the car with a fine-tooth comb, and writing a ticket for each thing "wrong", like him having a non-approved air filter, wrong lights, etc, etc, etc.
My point is, I'll have to look around to find a tuner who is willing and able to make this change, since if they do anything that is not strictly legal, they could be in big trouble. I doubt a dealer would be willing. I do have the advantage that my car (if I buy it) will never have to go through the German TUV. (There ARE inspections for cars with the special military plates, but they are nowhere near as strict as the TUV.)
11-17-2004, 05:13 AM
11-17-2004, 10:35 AM
MTM sits near Ingolstadt<ul><li><a href="http://www.mtm-online.de/index_en.htm">MTM-Motorsport</a></li></ul>
11-17-2004, 10:56 AM
11-18-2004, 01:06 AM
OK, thanks for that info. I had never asked that specific question of anybody, and just figured it would fall within the normal limits on modifications, i.e., it must be specifically approved, and any changes that aren't approved, are, by definition, NOT legal.
I'll call MTM and chat with them. I am in Garmisch, so it is a short jaunt up to see them near Ingolstadt.