View Full Version : RS6 Brake warranty clarification.


Hy Octane
07-28-2005, 06:58 PM
For those of you who have been cursed with inferior and cheap dealerships as your only source of repair, heres the poop on our brakes.. This is what I posted some months ago, but in case you arent sure, this is an x-post from RS6.com from an owner who got his RS6 Audi advocate involved,

"She also answered a clear and present brake issue for my 03 RS6. She says that the warranty covers "UNLIMITED" brake changes for wear and tear SO LONG as your pads do not go below a certain level. The warranty also provides 1 free COMFORT brake pad change. This is for "any reason in which the customer complains of discomfort with the brakes". I pressed her and she said that a definition was not required. All I had to be was "Uncomfortable" with them."

So let it be done!

Bauer
07-28-2005, 08:45 PM
set in 32k miles

rs6shaun
07-29-2005, 10:28 AM
I took my car to a performance driving class where we had to get the feel of driving under hard (ABS engaged) braking. There is now an ever-so-slight shimy through the steering wheel when I brake at high speeds, so it makes me think one or both of my front rotors are a bit warped. (Haven't yet taken it in for them to look at cuz I just had the 15K service done before this class.) Just curious if I'm gonna be in for a problem getting this corrected...

Hy Octane
07-29-2005, 10:35 AM
Remember.. alot of this expense was built into the price we paid for these cars.. If your dealer has any doubts, have them call the RS6 advocate hotline to get it from the horses mouth..
(866) 892-2834

rs6shaun
07-29-2005, 10:43 AM
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/67630/img_1322.jpg"></center><p>(And here's a little pic of my car doing the ABS-engaged decreasing radius turn.... fun stuff.)

choppo
07-29-2005, 11:45 AM

2FastNYC
07-29-2005, 03:38 PM
...since I got my car (Dec., '03).

Perhaps the single greatest quirk about our Beasts is the braking. We have all heard the squeaking and then the harsher sounding "industrial noise" when they get hot. To know that a) Audi is on to this and wants to be helpful to RS6 owners and that b) you did the due diligence required to be able to tell us all that they are going to stand behind the brakes is an incredibly valuable contribution to this board and I want to thank you for it.

P.S. I want to be clear that there have been many other extremely helpful posts here and I am grateful for them all -- the community of RS6 "pilots" is incredibly knowledgeable and everyone has beeen so helpful to this novice. But the brakes, and the noise, has been my personal peeve, so that is why I am singling out this post.

choppo
07-29-2005, 03:41 PM

DaveyKid
07-29-2005, 09:53 PM
the car because of it's inherent flaws, etc..... and assuming you had an endless supply of money (a tree in the backward to shake!), would you even bother with trying to get new rotors and pads out of Audi or would you just start fresh with different rotors, pads, calipers and so on? I mean, with all the complaining we do, why bother putting yourself right back in that same position, because they are free? We spent $80-$90K on this car. Why not just bite the bullet and put the RIGHT set up on the car and be done with it?

Just kind of a rhetorical question, that's all.

Hy Octane
07-29-2005, 10:10 PM
that stops me. It isnt unheard of for a car company to revisit a problematic system and issue recalls to update them... By replacing the brakes you would void the warranty.. This takes you out of the game.. I guess I believe that Audi should be forced to spend some of my money I gave them on replacing brake components and anything else that was poorly thought out. Why should I pay for thier goofs? What I have come to realize is that what we have here is an Audi A6 with a big motor. It has all of the problems that the A6 has BUT it costs twice as much to fix! I believe that Audi padded the cost of this car knowing how much it would take for them to honor the cost free maintenance period.. thus, I am quite content to let them spend it on me..when the warranty is out, I will be replacing this brake system if they havent come up with a better solution by then..

DaveyKid
07-30-2005, 05:58 AM
biggest mistake is in assuming it's anything more than that! It's a mass produced car done in a very limited run. Audi had no way of doing proper longterm R&amp;D on this car to determine it's flaws/shortcomings like all car manufacturers do from year to year (A6 is a great case in point) and the brakes and transmission are great examples of that. Both of course are the result of poor or not well thought out enough design flaws caused by too much power and inability to correct those flaws from model year to model year. No way they can or will offer an upgraded or retrofit design on such a limited production car to correct these problems. I wouldn't do the same either. It's the price of admission for owning something so unique. We knew it going in, we just want to forget it when it's an inconvenience to us.

On top of that, many of us (present company excluded) track this car and place further stress on the relatively long-term untested design flaws further magnifying them.

If they built the RS6 in it's present form, for 5 or 6 years, I guarantee you you'd see changes from year to year improving on the vehicle. Unfortunately for us, that's not the case.

A6sport
07-30-2005, 04:25 PM
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/87466/brembo_upgrade.jpg"></center><p>
don't tell the RS6 guys I got a 2.8! LOL

DaveyKid
07-30-2005, 09:12 PM
I love my RS6 but I've got to do something with the brakes to make them a non-factor. Right now, they are the only thing holding me back from some serious auto-xing.

Revo'd-RS6
07-31-2005, 08:37 AM
Porterfield Brakes has a custom RS6 application(AP1029 R4 Full racepad &amp; R4s Street pad) that I have been running for 2 months now, with NO BRAKE Noise, I have 2 sets of front Pads 1 for street and one for track,(OEM pads on the rear) most important thing is the bedding of the brakes, done properly no noise make a mistake ( noise), the track version makes noise, due to the compound mix. But not the street pads both are a Carbon Kevalar compound.
Previous pads
OEM
Pagid's
Carbotech<ul><li><a href="http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/pads.html">http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/pads.html</a</li></ul>

DaveyKid
07-31-2005, 09:33 AM
no fade, and MINIMAL brake dust. Any entire day of racing at Gingerman produced no more dust than just one day of my stock RS6 pads.

no.radar
07-31-2005, 10:09 AM

eph94
07-31-2005, 11:49 AM
Once I flushed out the stock DOT3 brake fluid and put in higher boiling temp DOT4 brake fluid, my brake warranty went out the window. Makes sense, though. The DOT4 fluid allows me to put a greater strain on the entire system than OEM specs. The Pagid Grey pads also chewed up the motors much faster than stock.

no.radar
07-31-2005, 03:46 PM

Revo'd-RS6
07-31-2005, 06:48 PM
They are great but the weight of the beast eats the race pads up in 2-3 full days at the track( I crystallized the OEMs and torched a rotor in 1 day, my pagids did the same) the street ones have been on only for 2000 miles but so far no noise. But I also switched to Enkei RPM2 rims for the steet at the same time and I am sure the better airflow through the brakes helps with the dust

ICONCLS
08-01-2005, 05:18 AM

ICONCLS
08-01-2005, 05:52 AM

no.radar
08-01-2005, 06:34 AM

ICONCLS
08-01-2005, 06:39 AM

no.radar
08-01-2005, 06:46 AM

ICONCLS
08-01-2005, 07:36 AM

no.radar
08-01-2005, 07:42 AM

Revo'd-RS6
08-02-2005, 06:42 AM
On there web site, but you need to call to get the RS6 specific applications I believe its AP1029 on the R-4 products, you will need a second set of pads as they are race and street specific<ul><li><a href="http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/">http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/</a</li></ul>

DaveyKid
08-03-2005, 05:47 PM
as a daily driver.

Revo'd-RS6
08-03-2005, 06:14 PM
I think so
I have R-4 for Track and 4S for street, I am in love