VAP
09-05-2008, 03:47 PM
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while test-fitting my dry sump oil system to the side of my builder engine I've discovered that I either have to do away with dry sump or do away with headers to make this work. Headers gain me a few horsepower but dry sump gives me better internal engine lubrication & protection. I "could" mount the dry sump system with these but it would be a seriously Rube Goldberg looking affair and would add almost 15lbs in CNC'd aluminum off-setting plates and brackets and I would be dangersously close to both headers and my frame rails. Given this is a $45,000+ engine with titanium rods and Mahle box-n-box pistons as on the R8/R10 as well as a severely modified lightweight crank, and a gazillion other uber lightweight internals which would you eliminate? Yeah, me too.
These ran $2395.00 when new and I paid $1,200 cash for them 5 years ago and traded a pair of ported/polished cast iron exhaust manifolds valued at $300.00. They were new then and had never been mounted. Same is true today. I'm not willing to take a loss and am prepared to own them FOREVER before selling at a loss. These are B5/A4 12V specific but could be modified to work with the B4 or C-chassis 12V cars. I want $1500+ shipping out of them or will sell them with the Random Technology stainless steel, spiral wound metal matrix racing cats that are an incredibly hi-flow design... the BEST, highest-flow "legal" cats out there! New they run $266.00 each. With cats & V-clamps I want $2,000+ shipping. I figure shipping to lower 48 would run in the $100.00 ballpark and they will be packaged tight and professionally. Buyer pays "actual" shipping costs without mark-up by me for "handling" or other hidden BS costs.
I don't expect these to fly out the door due to pricing but I'll ship them anywhere in the world. However, you MUST be aware that due to the "one-of-a-kind" nature of these they are not replaceable for ANY amount of money and therefore I will not under-value them on ANY country's custom declaration sheet as they MUST be insured for the full value you're paying or I won't turn them over to ANY shipping company! Hard for me to declare their value at $25.00 on a customs declaration when they're insured for $2,000.00!
I have extreme concerns over selling these as this leaves me without a "known" direction exhaust-wise on the builder engine. But I'll find a way to get that 25HP back that won't compromise lubrication. But if my new engine were to grenade on me I don't have another spare $45k of expendable cash lying around to start over and I'd beat the crap outta myself emotionally for being so thoughtless/careless, frivolous and cavalier with SUCH a big-ticket engine. It all comes down to priorities and a "splash" type lubrication system scares the bejeezus out of me at 10K+ RPM's!!!
while test-fitting my dry sump oil system to the side of my builder engine I've discovered that I either have to do away with dry sump or do away with headers to make this work. Headers gain me a few horsepower but dry sump gives me better internal engine lubrication & protection. I "could" mount the dry sump system with these but it would be a seriously Rube Goldberg looking affair and would add almost 15lbs in CNC'd aluminum off-setting plates and brackets and I would be dangersously close to both headers and my frame rails. Given this is a $45,000+ engine with titanium rods and Mahle box-n-box pistons as on the R8/R10 as well as a severely modified lightweight crank, and a gazillion other uber lightweight internals which would you eliminate? Yeah, me too.
These ran $2395.00 when new and I paid $1,200 cash for them 5 years ago and traded a pair of ported/polished cast iron exhaust manifolds valued at $300.00. They were new then and had never been mounted. Same is true today. I'm not willing to take a loss and am prepared to own them FOREVER before selling at a loss. These are B5/A4 12V specific but could be modified to work with the B4 or C-chassis 12V cars. I want $1500+ shipping out of them or will sell them with the Random Technology stainless steel, spiral wound metal matrix racing cats that are an incredibly hi-flow design... the BEST, highest-flow "legal" cats out there! New they run $266.00 each. With cats & V-clamps I want $2,000+ shipping. I figure shipping to lower 48 would run in the $100.00 ballpark and they will be packaged tight and professionally. Buyer pays "actual" shipping costs without mark-up by me for "handling" or other hidden BS costs.
I don't expect these to fly out the door due to pricing but I'll ship them anywhere in the world. However, you MUST be aware that due to the "one-of-a-kind" nature of these they are not replaceable for ANY amount of money and therefore I will not under-value them on ANY country's custom declaration sheet as they MUST be insured for the full value you're paying or I won't turn them over to ANY shipping company! Hard for me to declare their value at $25.00 on a customs declaration when they're insured for $2,000.00!
I have extreme concerns over selling these as this leaves me without a "known" direction exhaust-wise on the builder engine. But I'll find a way to get that 25HP back that won't compromise lubrication. But if my new engine were to grenade on me I don't have another spare $45k of expendable cash lying around to start over and I'd beat the crap outta myself emotionally for being so thoughtless/careless, frivolous and cavalier with SUCH a big-ticket engine. It all comes down to priorities and a "splash" type lubrication system scares the bejeezus out of me at 10K+ RPM's!!!