There is significantly more room in a C4's engine bay. I can't wait to see this....
11-14-2007, 01:59 PM
.. so everything will be taken out. The main difference is the downpipe angle. The B4's have almost a straight down angle while the b5's are more sloping. Nothing a little cutting and welding won't fix. There is also the wheel well which IS very close on the passenger side, but I am willing to make this work. They won't be on there for a while so a plan will definitely be drawn up.
11-14-2007, 03:36 PM
11-14-2007, 03:41 PM
I just finished cleaning up my garage this weekend, all ready to tear this baby apart on the bench. Plenty of room for storage and workspace now :o)
still debating on whether or not I'm going to install them.
You can technically do the headers w/o pulling the heads, but I'm worried about unbolting the existing ones and snapping off exhaust studs in the heads, etc etc. Also I'd need to redo my exhaust and a bunch of other stuff... so not sure what I'm doing with them.
i'm sure if I got an offer I couldn't refuse I might let 'em go, but who knows...
mind me asking how much you bought 'em for?
11-15-2007, 06:48 AM
a pair of equal-length, stainless steel headers with low cell-count spiral-wrapped, exceedingly high-flow cats. Even better when ALL joints in exhaust are quick-disconnect stainless band-clamps and any or every part of the exhaust, including cats, 4.2l V8 center resonator and/or rear muffler can be swapped out individually or collectively for straight pipes in the paddock in under 20 minutes!
To this day it remains the gift "most" rare.
11-15-2007, 09:41 AM
here's another pic i saved a while back:
11-15-2007, 08:03 PM
Although i haven't gotten them yet, he said he was shipping them out today or tomorrow.
Very nice guy
11-15-2007, 08:09 PM
They also look very similar. Did you have fitment problems??
I like the idea of the quick disconnect, but I don't think that fits my budget ><
Why do you use the v8 center resonator? I remember you saying that the stock can flow up to 350hp or so. Also how does the car sound with the v8 rear muffler? Is it "stock with grunt" loud? I had a straight piped exhaust with a magnaflow rear muffler but it sounded terrible and I reverted back to stock.
11-16-2007, 03:32 AM
the ends and re-welding. Mine may be a little easier to align since there's no 3-bolt flanges to deal with and I can move my band clamps up/down and I won't have any of the ABS hardware to contend with or work around.
I've already posted reasons on the V8 resonator. Please follow link below.<ul><li><a href="http://forums.audiworld.com/12v/msgs/63423.phtml">V8 resonator</a></li></ul>
11-16-2007, 06:20 AM
or throwing it out! lol
11-16-2007, 10:09 AM
11-18-2007, 06:56 AM
11-18-2007, 08:55 AM
and I'm not completely convinced these arent the ones I saw in the pic. These were VERY expensive for their era when new hovering at/near $2,300 a pair price point. There were a handful of unequal-length header sets floating around at about half the equal-length price, made by the same person but probably 3 or fewer pair all-told that ever made their presence known at this and all other similar forums.
I've never once seen or heard of another equal-length pair for the 12V being offered for sale before I bought these or since.
I once contacted Stasis about making me a pair like the author of this thread got. They wanted $4,400 a pair and they were made from mild steel rather than stainless. Longevity wasn't a concern for Stasis as they had headers pre-made and lying around they could swap-out whenever needed.
The ones Stasis are selling now "may" likely be the closest anyone will ever get to the TDL stainless/equal-length pair in my post. It was the rareness I mention here that was the sole motivation in my writing the post you responded to. And if another pair showed up for sale or at auction and I knew about it, it's safe to presume I'd be vigorouly bidding on them since all my local estimates have shown a near $6k price tag to have my pair duplicated.
Given all this you're not the only one that will likely NEVER find another pair identical to these. I won't either and that's why these are SOOO special/rare and I'm entirely privelaged to have them.
11-18-2007, 09:12 PM
his info is in the link here:<ul><li><a href="http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=83018.0">http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=83018.0</a</li></ul>
11-18-2007, 09:15 PM
11-20-2007, 07:28 AM
he was selling. He mentioned that he had a pair of Lebree (think thats right?) headders, but didnt want to sell them. Apparently a friend from CA hooked him up for like $400. Whats the deal with these? or was he blowing smoke out his ass? needles to say he never contacted me about the parts we discussed to begin with, but I am curious about the headers.
With that said, would it be so difficult to aquire some 12V manifolds from a yard to use the flanges and fab up a set of headders for myself. Obviously not able to garantee a flow matching yours or the likes, but to achieve a performance upgrade nonetheless?