View Full Version : Was at borders reading a Bosch fuel injection book.... now I've got another intake mod to work on.


quattrofrog
07-24-2003, 08:38 PM
and I came across a page with "ram air" or velocity stack diagrams on it, kinky... me thinky.

So here is a problem for me, my K&N cone doesnt have any sort of flare inside of it to aid in sucking the air up through the intake tube. Actually the intake tube is just a straight pipe that extends into the cone. NOT GOOD, so now I'm thinking, how the hell can I affix a velocity stack to the end of the intake pipe.

For starters I was looking at this
<img src="http://www.partsexpress.com/images/268-350m.jpg">

Its a $12 3" diameter subwoofer enclosure port tube with flares at either end. So if UrS4 has had some very good results with adding a velocity stack to a STOCK airbox, why not transfer the same logic over to the K&amp;N cone?

Also was thinking, if the MAF on the AFC engine, is a heated wire type, then what would happen if we altered the amperage or voltage available to it. Isnt the thing based on the principle that the coils will reach a certain temp, and it calculates the volume of the air depending on the resistance to maintain its given temperature presented by the air passing over it, also it calculates the density of the air too by that means right? Or am I confused again.

So I was thinking if we reduced the power supplied to the sensor it would be possible to alter the flow that it tells the computer.

As I understand it, the AFC uses a frequency rather than a voltage output on the MAF. So the only other way to alter what the computer reads from the MAF is to record the frequencies sent by the MAF to the MMS-411 ecu and then program a device to mimic the output of the MAF, or to alter the frequency so that the actual MAF reading is not being recieved by the ECU, but rather a programmed reading.

I dunno I'm just pondering. After I spoke with Ron Skeene last night, I've been working out what can give me control over the Air/fuel mixture and timing.

VAP
07-24-2003, 08:53 PM
velocity stacks for years. And the MAF calibrator you're talking bout has been available even longer and available from several vendors.

At any rate, welcome back!!

scott12v@pghaudi
07-25-2003, 04:53 AM
<ul><li><a href="http://www.audi12v.com/mods/engine/intake2.htm">http://www.audi12v.com/mods/engine/intake2.htm</a</li></ul>

ShadY12v
07-25-2003, 02:23 PM
this (ricer) website sells them...i dunno if they are the cheapest though<ul><li><a href="http://www.hypertuned.com">http://www.hypertuned.com</a</li></ul>

MikTip
07-25-2003, 05:00 PM
<center><img src="http://www.intenseperformance.com/products/bmcolors.GIF"></center><p>I have one currently installed on my Audi 12V.<ul><li><a href="http://www.intenseperformance.com/products/cone_filters/cone_filters.html">http://www.intenseperformance.com/products/cone_filters/cone_filters.html</a</li></ul>

520
07-25-2003, 06:59 PM
Scott, whats the OD of your MAF adapter and whats the ID of that filter? Is its base aluminum, is that why you needed silicone coupler to attach it?

scott12v@pghaudi
07-25-2003, 07:15 PM
The cone butts up against the MAF adapter and the silicone sleeve goes on the outside of both to seal them together.

If you want the actual diameters, let me know and I'll get them tomorrow.

Scott

520
07-25-2003, 07:15 PM
MikTip, what the base size of that filter and is it aluminum or rubber? Does it come w/coupler?

520
07-25-2003, 07:17 PM
That would be nice since i am going to get one w/VS inside and will make new MAF adapter. Which filter is that, akimoto?
Thanks!

scott12v@pghaudi
07-25-2003, 09:42 PM

MikTip
07-26-2003, 02:57 AM
<center><img src="http://home.ec.rr.com/miktip/3sil2a.jpg"></center><p>
The filter itself has rubber ends, and a large base, to fit over the funnel piece. It measures 5". Plus inside the filter is another cone, to help shape the air coming from infront of the filter. The funnel section takes this down from 5" to 3.5". Where the silicone hose(blue piece) connects it to your MAF adapter which in slightly over 3".

When I installed this setup on my car, it made a noticable differance, over the cone I had on before! ;o)

520
07-26-2003, 01:45 PM
So cone and a funnel are 2 separate pieces? What holds them together? I see something like a clamp at the base of the filter, is it that? And honestly, did you wash your engine before taking that pic?