View Full Version : stock airbox MAF inlet will now become a true velocity stack...


VAP
04-10-2003, 10:01 AM
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I'm expecting my 2-stage flaring die back from the hardening shop this afternoon. All the dies have now been hardened to Rockwell 65 (drill bits are in the Rockwell 58-60 range). So these pieces will be hard, hard, hard... I mean "harder 'n Chinese arithmetic to an english teacher!" Should provide a lifetime of flaring aluminum tubing without so much as a surface scratch or flaw.

The first pic is of the initial flare: Die 1 has been hardened to the above spec then an industrail Teflon coating applied to help prevent marring/scratching of the aluminum tube inner wall. This die will be used to put the initial flare in the aluminum tubing after it has been annealed. That process will likely cause some measure of work-hardening which will then likely require a second annealing to be able to accomodate the second flaring process which will be a two-stage angle below the intakes initial flaring mentioned above.

Die 2 I'll pick up this afternoon. It is the two-stage die I mentioned above. It will create a tapered angle just inside the wide-mouth inlet and roll the first-stage flairing into a more rounded shape. This die will be hardened to the same spec as die 1.

Last week I made up a plastic prototype of the aluminum MAF inlet then heated it and forcing it over the protype dies I made, heat-formed it into the shape I'm going to use for this. After a few corrections and reshaping the dies I was able to create some incredibly dramatic improvements over the original "airhorn" tape MAF inlet. You'll see the results below.

When done, the aluminum MAF inlet will be a true velocity stack MAF inlet with all the features that qualify it as such:

1. Greater volumetric efficiency and resultant theoretic torque increase

2. Boundary layer turbulence and distortions far smoother than a simple simple angled "horn flare"

3. Smoother air stability thru MAF than stock airbox outlet or airhorn design

4. Higher velocity of filtered air thru velocity stack allowing more air to replace it sooner.

5. Velocity stack actually creates more of a "scavenging affect" in that it helps pull air behind it into MAF/induction tract. This can only be improved or enhanced with velocity. Simple volume increases or larger surface area filter media cannot accomplish the same effect.

6. Simple bell-mouth flair flows 12% more air thru the airbox lid than stock design at 400CFM. New velocity stack inlet flows 28% more air at 300 CFM!! Thats a whopping 134% increase over the stock airbox at 25% LESS CFM!! (tested with new stock paper panel filter and airbox intact from grill inlet to airbox outlet).**

7. Allows for stock airbox and paper filter to be retained and a simple 2-3 minute installation with only a screwdriver to unclip airbox lid. Slightly higher gains should be expected with a good aftermarket panel filter.


**(note)
Stock MAF* is the bottle-neck of the entire induction tract and even tho flow-rates upstream of it can be improved and enhanced it doesn't mean that those enhancements can or will materialize at the cylinder on compression stroke or on a dyno bei it of the conventional or "butt". Those results should be verified or not very shortly. I use this example for comparison purposes only.

* (note)

Results of induction tract measurements.

MAF I.D. 2.995"

MAF I.D. minus sampling tube housing and cast cross-housing insert equals a net diameter of 2.248" for air to flow thru (even less if sharp/perpendicular angles and obstruction dynamics are factored in)

Induction hose I.D. at stock plenum intake port 2.361" (smallest diameter just ahead of external clamp) measured inside hose.

Throttle body flange I.D. 3.12"
Secondary bore: 2.110"
Primary bore: (stock) .940"

Ironic the throttle body (IN STOCK FORM!!) and counting for the butterflies and shaft (again IN STOCK FORM) mass @WOT is capable of flowing almost 30% more air than the MAF housing and 17% more than the induction hose!! Dems de facts!

I'll fix the induction hose soon but until/if some measure of MAF flow improvement comes along or someone finds an alternative we're gonna be stifled by diminished flows thru the MAF. I know some have already done some MAF surgery "sampling tube-ectomies" and re-calibration but they are a bit cryptic and secretive... preferring to say they've done it but unable/unwilling to discuss specs/results. Has anyone done that willing to openly share what "exacrtly" was done, how it was done and the empirical or dyno proven results along with fuel/air ratio samplings at various RPM's?? Without some data other than "britches barometer" it's a little risky for any kind of "one-size-fits-all application.

SlammedA4
04-10-2003, 10:35 AM

VAP
04-10-2003, 10:52 AM
Audi stuff right out my garage door and the other stuff right out my front door. Computer in the garage and living room for those "in-between" times.

Dead
04-10-2003, 02:08 PM
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VAP
04-10-2003, 02:20 PM
almost 3 years ago and invested in a Davtron, building/buying manometers and pressure differential testers and all sorts of other stuff. Likely one of the best, if not THE best site available for for a no-BS approach to what works and what doesn't. Very little Audi-specific content but Audi is a car and usually what works well on other cars will suit an Audi very well.

Dead
04-10-2003, 03:30 PM

Dead
04-10-2003, 03:48 PM
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/8297/cool4.jpg"></center><p>This Thermo-Tec stuff is awesome.

VAP
04-10-2003, 05:46 PM
It's that damn MAF again... it get's hotter than hell! And any metal in direct contact with it gets hot from migratory conduction... including my inlet horn. But at this point I dont know how much of that heat is generated from within by the electrics/heating element or from outside by radiant heat. But I do know that even when insulated it still gets dispoportionately hot compared to surrounding items... I found that very early on. I will probaly use the Thermo-Tec on my new aluminum intake tube with the Samco elbows as I have some left over from when I did my 1.8T turbo oil line.

Dead
04-10-2003, 06:16 PM
In truth I've not played with the issue on our cars like have the turbo ones.I know that on a 1.8T we could run the piss out of the car and get the turbo HOT and the Thermo Tec sheet next to the turbo could easily be touch for as long as you could stand the heat from the turbo on the other side of your hand.

VAP
04-10-2003, 07:25 PM
only time it climbs much higher is at prolonged idle on a hot day and even then never by more than 12-15* above ambient.

It's an incredibly efficient box at keeping temps down. Of couse anything pulling outside air thru a sealed system is going to run cooler than a solid or sealed box without constant air moving thru it.