hhahah. that was a funny read. He goes and pops off his "know-it-all" wisdom on almost every post! You brought a smile to my face turbonad! Keep up the good work.

I shoudl go through and post a reply to every one of his! that would be a waste of time for me and I am not in the mod to come up with stupid resonses.

but the fact that most people don't have snow tires makes it even more important to get them. During those few days of snowstorms that snow tires shine the brightest, most people will be slipping & sliding, and you'd want to have the best grip at that time for all the emergency maneuvers to avoid getting hit.

come on, where's your sense of fun?

I read the thread again and the original poster was looking for used winter tires presumably because he was worried his Michelin Pilot A/S would not be safe for winter. Well, Michelin says they are and they are probably the most expensive all season tire out there. Why spend money on possibly inferior winter tires when all that is required is the usual level of Canadian winter driving skill.

You guys may not be old enough to remember bias ply winter tires but I can assure you that when the first radials became available generally in Canada we were pretty impressed that they gave better winter traction than winter tires. Radials have simply got so much better we take the extra stopping power of winter ice tires for granted.

The flaw in the argument is that most Canadian drivers are still on all seasons, much inferior to those Michelin A/S so all that better tires gets you in an emergency is a dented trunk.

a car spinning out of control in a snowstorm across multiple lanes on the highway. You definitely want all the grip you can get to avoid getting hit by the spinning car.

Unbelievable as it may sound, I have been narrowly missed by the spinning car more than once, thanks to winter tires & better grip.

Note that Tire Rack points out that winter tires give up bare road grip in return for grip on ice.

Mind you, Bridgestone doesn't make the best tires in any category so I wouldn't be running down to my Bridgestone dealer for a set of their Q rubber anytime soon.<ul><li><a href="http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AR4&url=%2Ftires%2Ftests%2Fbridgestone_winter.jsp">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/bridgestone_winter.jsp</a></li></ul>

you only get that supposedly special multicell for the top half of the tread, then sometime, somewhere you end up with regular winter rubber. Just what is the point of that except to suck people in to paying full price for half a tire? And the multicell wears out faster than the regular rubber so you really get about one third of the tire life as an ice radial then the rest of the time they are pathetically awful...great idea I don't think. Mind you that LM 25 is no screamin' heck either. It is pretty poor on snow and ice and awful on bare road.

So, bottom line, ignore the Q rated rubber and concentrate on the differences between the summer, all season, and the H rated winter. If you rework the percentages using the H rated winter as 100% you'll get a more realistic comparison of real world winter tires.

and, you're welcome. I aim to inform and entertain as well as liven up what might be the most boring board on the Internet.

The personal attacks are amusing. Nobody actually proves me wrong, so far. The funny part is I am wrong, deliberately so to see if you guys know anything worth posting. However, you guys are so excited about the "clever" personal attacks you can't even see where I'm actually overstating the case... too funny.

where I grew up, a guy that talked like you would get his ass handed to him pretty quickly.

I imagine that it doesn't impress the ladies that much either (except the ones that don't speak English or have a brain).

What does your shrink say is your deep and underlying reason for being you?

And anyone that knows the B5 S4 well knows that you were incorrect on many issues during your last thread with Aman. In fact at my last track day several of us where laughing at you and your ways.

If this is the most boring forum on the ENTIRE internet THEN PLEASE TAKE A HIKE!

the arguments.

I can't help it if you and your friends think you know what you're talking about but don't. It doesn't hurt a wise man's feelings to be laughed at by fools, especially when done behind one's back, figuratively speaking of course.

As for handing me my "ass", oh yeah, you and whose army? as we used to say in the school yard. Pretty infantile insults, no effect on me. This is the Internet Dude, if ya wanna scrap in person you'll have to come on out West and we'll see.... time to grow up a little, my friend.

All I did was post my views about the need for winter tires, in specific response to a specific question.

I believe my views on winter tires versus all seasons and versus summer tires will be supported by even a cursory search on tire rack's web site, as well as other sources.

My views are supported by many, many years of actual driving experience on winter roads. So, there, top that.

attitude that you are better than everyone else.

Judging by the responses you get I am not the only one that feels this way.

AND YES, IF WE WERE FACE TO FACE, I'm sure you wouldn't put your money where your mouth is.

I know you Turbonator. You are brave on the Internet and definitely weak in person.

Otherwise you wouldn't find it necessary to act the way you do.

I'm telling you... see a shrink.

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin, literally "argument against the person") involves replying to an argument or assertion by attacking the person presenting the argument or assertion rather than the argument itself.

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you claim to be a bigger dick than me.

I concede the argument.

As we say in my business:

res ipsa loquitur

You'll have to look that up, it'll be in a Latin English dictionary I expect. And yes, that's a hint.

If I am as pompous etc as you suggest, why do you think I'd care what you think?

Actually, as you may know it takes one to know one, the old mirror effect.

My posts have been carefully structured to reveal your own pomposity etc and I appear to have been successful.

From my very first posts I have been attacked by what appears to be a cabal (yup, you'll have to look that one up too, but it's English and a coined word from eighteenth century English politics) of generation X'ers who seem to think this board is their private domain open only to posters acceptable to themselves. Think again folks.

Now, I was only kidding, to see if certain members of this group really were the ignorant and self impressed maroons they appeared to be ( as Bugs Bunny would say, were he still alive). I guess I was right and you just proved it.

Oh sweet victory for the Turbonater, the poster the in-crowd loves to hate, but just can't get a step ahead of.

eh-4Q1.8 you should just butt out eh? I don't need your help defending my flawless personality.

I still suggest you back away from the fray. I mean, what do you know about my arrogant personality anyway, dude?

Is that how you say it? Dude? I am trying desperately to keep up to these young know nothin's.

And that would also be my definition of ad hominem . . . dooood.

real mature mr.better than everyone. Bah whatever your next post is, I'm rubber and your glue! (now thats funny)

smelled of elderberries, but I cannot resist a challenge like that. I don't know if we're in the same City or not but name the place and name the drinks and I'm your man...

to be a bigger dick than a lawyer? Careful how you answer that, it is a trick question, our speciality.

"sarcasm" is defined in the OED as a "bitter or wounding remark; taunt, esp one ironically worded"

"irony" appears in the very same dictionary and is: "expression of one's meaning by language of opposite or different tendency"


As I wasn't sure you had a dictionary or knew how to use one I saved you the embarrassment of admitting same and looked up the precise definitions for you. Let me know if you need more help.

I recommend you cogitate* a little before posting again.

*ponder, meditate (esp before opening one's mouth) better to be merely thought a fool than open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

In your case, you failed to notice Visti has an amazingly short, but wide, e-penis making him a bigger *******. And the subject of ridicule

Let me explain for the benefit of the Visti-chimp. A longer e-penis looks like this

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you suck a posting e-wangs.