This happened Friday night (nov 14) around 7pm on the 407 in Toronto.
There is a black B6 A4 in front of me in the left lane. We're both clipping along well over 120, it's raining pretty hard and it's dark. The B6 gets stuck behind a slow left-lane hog, so he cuts across the middle and right lanes to pass a pack of cars that was going only about 120. As he passes them he slams on his brakes in front of this van. The van does a nose-dive as his slams his brakes, and I almost see his rear come off the ground. This all happens in a tight pack of cars, and it's raining. The van recovers and thankfully stays in his lane, otherwise there would have been a pile-up which would have taken me with it.
Then this moron steps on the gas and takes off, exiting at Bathurst. I got his license plate, ARCFxxxx, and in retrospect I should have phoned the OPP.
ARCF: If you are on this forum, do us all a favor: sell your car, take the bus and <b>stay off the road</b>.
11-15-2003, 09:45 AM
But yah, call the OPP if you do have the plate number. Even though you have a partial plate number, they could probably look it up and see if anything matches.
11-15-2003, 12:55 PM
11-15-2003, 01:54 PM
11-15-2003, 02:46 PM
11-15-2003, 02:47 PM
11-15-2003, 04:47 PM
and even if he was, that does not excuse the mental defective behaviour.
11-15-2003, 07:52 PM
the hog doesnt move over after all other means are exhausted... most of them wouldnt move over if their lives depended on it...
so here is a little of their own medicine... let them try it...
11-15-2003, 08:30 PM
11-15-2003, 08:51 PM
11-16-2003, 05:57 AM
11-16-2003, 07:41 AM
1) approach the hog from behind
2) wait patiently for him/her to move over
3) use high beams to grab his/her attention
4) use horn to grab his/her attention
5) get close behind and as much left as possible so that he/ she can see me
if nothing works:
1) pass the hog using the middle lane
2)get in front of the hog
3) slam on the brakes making sure that he/she comes close but not to hit you
4) enjoy the look of his/her face in my rear view mirror
5) casually speed away
11-16-2003, 08:11 AM
Why make things worse around here in Toronto on the highway... just pass the car and leave it at that. Some people will never learn to get out of the left lane no matter what you do.
I did that once a long time ago and ended up really pissing off some girl in a geo metro (which can't brake at all as I found out shortly after). She rode my bumper and wouldn't get off as all I seen was her windshield in the rearview. Had to brake hard because of traffic all of a sudden came to a stand still and dove into the shoulder lane as she locked up all fours and slid right up next to me.
If I'm in the left and somebody's behind me I'll try and move over as soon as I can. If I can't move over and they persist to ride my bumper, I just hit my rear fog light to tell them to backoff which works most of the time.
11-16-2003, 08:21 AM
i am not saying i am perfect... but meybe the hog will start thinking...
11-16-2003, 09:13 AM
11-16-2003, 03:09 PM
...and break your legs. I read about road rage incidents all the time -- one mental defective beating the crap out of another at the next stop light over a silly traffic dispute.
...or maybe the hog will ram right into the back of you, wreck your pretty car with his 1984 Dodge Caravan and you will have to explain your little methodology of imparting the Highway Traffic Act on the populace to the OPP.
...or maybe the hog will cause a huge accident that possibly even kills a soul or two.
All cuz you're a "human being."
11-16-2003, 03:39 PM
11-16-2003, 04:37 PM
11-16-2003, 05:48 PM
i'll do it my way and accept the consequences... obviously it is not your business... just make sure you are not the left line hog in my way...
do you hog the left line often... sounds like you do...
and if someone wants to try to break my legs i will even pull over and let them try it... that'd be fun...
11-16-2003, 06:35 PM
11-16-2003, 07:55 PM
When I have to share the road with you, it IS my business.
You do realize that slamming your brakes in front of someone who is obviously out of it to begin with is criminally dangerous. And you also must realize that your behaviour isn't getting the lane hog to think, it's getting them mad.
I know it would get me mad, but I wouldn't chase you; I would report you. That's a promise.
And what's this about "accepting consequences" -- are you prepared to take someone's life to satisfy your petty road rage?
Frankly, you sound like you're all of 17 years old. Please, do us all a favour and stay off the road.
11-16-2003, 08:45 PM
11-17-2003, 12:16 AM
......the kind of guy who would give you a finger all the time (when he is right or wrong), who is calling police everytime something or somebody bothering him, when he calles police he never says that somebody just slammed his brakes, he will go on and on about dangerous driving etc. Kind of guy who will spoil your mood on monday by giving you a finger because he just thought you was going too fast. Kind of guy who will give you a finger, swear at you and take off as fast as he can not to get any eye contact with you or just not to get his ass kicked.
I just hate a kind of people I just describied. If you want to hear some stories about "knock, knock" people, just ask me.
If I am wrong and you are not this kind of guy, I am really sorry. If you are this kind of guy, better remember my car and don't give a finger to me because after this it will be all your problem=)
P.S. - Cops more then likely wont give a s@#t about such a report (specially in GTA), happens all the time.
All I can say, accept the rules or stay home=)
11-17-2003, 12:20 AM
.......maybe it was only me who saw a dog=))) Plus........ Cops will more then likely charge you for not keeping correct distance=)
11-17-2003, 06:53 AM
pass on the right, safely come in front, thumb the guy over to the right and take your foot off the gas. works every time and less dangerous.
11-17-2003, 10:35 AM
So you were driving like an ass and someone gave you the finger, is that it? Sounds like it was probably deserved. If you happen to have the middle digit wagged at you on a regular basis, the problem is you, not them.
I don't "give the finger." I don't drive like an a$$hole, either. I've seen what happens when stupid people let their road rage get the better of them. It's not worth it.
And don't threaten me - I know what you look like, tough guy. You're in no position to threaten anyone.
11-17-2003, 01:35 PM
11-17-2003, 02:00 PM
.....I think I never saw you and if I did I dont remember.
1-st, I am not threatening you.
2-nd, If you don't drive like an *******, fine. I do, I dont drive really dangerous but I drive like an ******* and I admit that. So it is not my problem what you think. I made my choice and you can't judge me.
By the way, there are several kinds of drivers. There are all very different kinds. But. For example, some people think that Honda sucks and some dont, but no one bitches around about it. So same with the drivers, some of them are bad and some are good, some are *******s and some not. People dont go on and on about it all the time, they just realize and admit that. And you as I can see like to bitch about it, so let me tell you something. Just try to go over it.
A rough driver does not mean a bad driver.
So, lets close this topic.
PS - people usually give me fingers and tickets=))) for speeding.
PPS - Be simple and instead of giving somebody a finger next time or calling the cops just try to do what I usually try to do. Pull up near the guy on a traffic light, open your window and try to explain to him (with calm voice and no swearing like everybody likes to do) that he was wrong and he should not do it again. Once an older guy did that to me, and you know.... it really worked, I said thanks to him and I probably will not forget him for a long time.
11-18-2003, 06:03 AM
11-18-2003, 06:11 AM
you stated your case, now rest it. some may agree with you, some may not...
left lane hogging is characteristic only to North America, nowhere else, because it is equivalent to careless driving... try to hog the left line in Germany... hehehe, you wouldnt be on the road for more than few minutes...
so get a life and stop preaching about something that does not exisit... at leat not in this life...
11-18-2003, 06:21 AM
after taking a piss?
you sound like you do... nothing personal though... we are just different kind of people... that is all...
11-22-2003, 01:04 PM
> try to hog the left line in Germany... hehehe,
> you wouldnt be on the road for more than few
Take my word for it, even in Germany you can hog the left lane for quite a while. That is, until the next BMW sweeps you away...