You are driving along and you approach a traffic light that is yellow....you proceed to go through the traffic light.

At which point are you considered okay (let's assume you're not speeding, and driving normally).

Do you have to get across the stop line prior to the light turning red? Or is there a certain point in the intersection that you must cross prior to the light turning red?

just my opinion, being that if they shoot the cam, and the picture shows that you're at least past the intersection, you'd be okay. Not all lights turn green immediately after the intersecting light turns red, no?

None of this is fact, although I DID sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ;o)

ive learned that from past experience and also read up on them a lil bit

as soon as the light turns red.

Same goes for the left turn lane, if you are in the intersection you can turn left when the lights change. I hate people who stop on the line and wait for the next green light before turning. I just want to pull them out of their cars and beat them senseless. Is that wrong? :P

However if your front wheels go over the stop line when the light is red, you technically ran a red light. If a cop wants to be an a$$ he can write you up for this.

sh!t.

Here's what happened....

I got a red light ticket in the mail, I was in the left lane, and next to me in the right lane, about 3' behind me, is another car.

Whether it be that car or both of us, I got a ticket in the mail. It appears in pic 1, that my front wheels are about 1" short of the stop line, if that...my bumper appears to be across the line. In pic 2, 1.2 seconds later (CORRECTION, 0.69 seconds later, I read it wrong), my car is about 2/3 the way through the intersection.

the car behind me looks to be in clear violation...my car looks to be in a gray area if there is any.

I'm definitely taking it to court to see if they'll reduce it for being so close, but I'm wondering if my sitation warrants a request to dismiss it?

§ 46.2-833.

"When the amber signal is shown, traffic which has not already entered the intersection, including the crosswalks, shall stop if it is not reasonably safe to continue, but traffic which has already entered the intersection shall continue to move until the intersection has been cleared."

anything before that and they gotcha

you have the right to keep going.

dunno, I've already requested a court date. If it's not dismissed, I have a good shot of getting it reduced because it's DAMN close to being legit, and the other car in the picture 3' behind me doesn't hurt either.

They've been effectively inactive since June. Granted it still flashes, but the pictures aren't processed and no fines are mailed. :D

the Sad thing is the intersections with the cameras all have a shorter than usual yellow light duration. You can't win!

given that my front wheels hadn't even crossed the stop line when the pic was taken.

Now....how do I go about this in court? I've heard that close situations like mine have been reduced. What do I need to say/do to go in this direction? Anyone?

I wish I could scan the pic clear enough and post here.....it is VERY close to being a legit passthough on yellow.

I've heard that people have been able to get the fines reduced when it's this close....too bad those people aren't coming out of the woodwork now that I'd like to hear some details on what was said in court :(