This is the first time I have waxed my car, and unfortunately I am unsatisfied with my final results, a great dissapointment after hours of hard work. I purchased the HD Cleanse and Carbon wax from Zymol. Used the products according to instructions with Zymol applicators and towels. After using the HD cleanse, the paint looked fabulous but after applying the wax and endless buffing, I have a cloudy and streaky looking wax-job, needless to say awful. If anyone could give me some adbice that has either had similar problems and/or familiar with Zymol products, please let me know. My car is black, I forget what they called it "Brilliant black" or something....but right now, sure doesn't look that way. Oh, and I sent an email to Zymol, they responded very quickly with a snappy "you are doing it wrong." So something nicer than that would be great!!
2000 A4 1.8t Quattro
06-13-2001, 08:47 AM
Just kidding ...
Actually, what it sounds like is that you are using too much. You need to use only a VERY small amount of the Carbon wax. Also, make sure to never let it dry. Only apply to a very small area at a time and almost immediately buff it off. I've found that microfiber towels work great for that purpose.
If you find that no amount of buffing is helping to get your finish back to where it should be, you may have to go back to the HD Cleanse step and start again - or try giving an orbital buffer a whirl. I've used the latter when I've erred by using too much wax in the past.
Lone Starr (Ivan)
06-13-2001, 09:24 AM
and it's just that you used too much and/or did too large of an area at a time.
Another mistake that I made was that when they say "turn the towel often" they are not kidding. I have the Zymol towels and have them folded the "Zymol way" If you can see wax bunching up on the towel at all, turn to a clean part of the towel.
With this info you can have that advertised Zymol shine. It took me about 3 hours wash, HD Cleanse and wax the last time I did my car.
To be fair, I am using Pinnacle wax now and it is easier to use than Zymol but it is similar.
06-13-2001, 09:49 AM
06-13-2001, 10:41 AM
Thanks so much for the response, I'm glad to hear I am not alone. I was going to have it done professionally, but I enjoy doing things myself. I will try it again following your advice. It's probably a good work out for the arms and shoulders anyways. I will try another wax next time around if it fails me once or twice more, but for what I paid for this stuff, I am hoping on using it to the last drop! Oh, I noticed you bought the Mintex redbox pads for your TT, I just recently purchased front and rears for my A4, haven't put them on yet, but I am so excited, could you maybe put in a good word? (Just to make me more excited.) Thanks again.
06-13-2001, 10:46 AM
Thanks for the response, you guys are really cool. I was thinking of purchasing an orbital buffer, but wasn't sure if it was recommended. Do you use a buffer and like it? Which one do you have and how much do they generally cost? Some more information would be much appreciated.
06-13-2001, 10:47 AM
Hmmmm....maybe the wax so far, but the HD cleanse is the BOMB.
Bruce SEA 96993
06-13-2001, 03:14 PM
Lone Starr (Ivan)
06-13-2001, 06:38 PM
but these miracles of dustlessness that everyone around here seems to claim did not come true for me. The dust is a lighter color than stock. They do dust less than stock, but only about 40%.
Wax your wheels with the Zymol if possible. It's pretty easy on TT 6 spokers. It makes the brake dust come off really easily later.
06-13-2001, 11:09 PM
Thanks again for replying, you guys are all really nice. Anyways, it's not so much the brake dust buildup I want to decrease, I give my wheels a quick wipe usually every other night. What I would like is to improve sensitivity, possibly increase stopping power, and reduce the heat. I was planning on doing the Mintex pads and Neuspeed stainless steel brakelines together, but was told stainless steel brakelines can freeze...and MN weather can get 20 below. When my mom first came to this country she said, "twenty below what?!" HaHa. I think brakes are very important living here in MN, not too many savvy drivers, just alot lot of trucks, suv's, minivans, all my favorites!! When the road conditions get icy, I am never paranoid about my car running off the road, just the person in front of me, brakes play the biggest role in circumstances like these, and I want to be sure to STOP. I am putting them on Monday along with the UUC shortshifter (had to use the money saved up for something) I can't wait. Thanks again.
06-13-2001, 11:10 PM
You can wax your wheels?! Please tell me more.....
06-13-2001, 11:13 PM
Please further explain what you did to clear the haze using water. Did you use a hose or just a small amount, would washing have the same effect?
Please let me know. Thanks so much
06-14-2001, 04:57 AM
but it works great. Just remember with the Zymol wax: Using a tiny amount is the key. You'll find that it's a breeze to apply.
06-14-2001, 05:00 AM
Showtime detailing spray and wipe them down after I clean them.
Lone Starr (Ivan)
06-14-2001, 05:02 AM
I think the most important factor in stopping in icy conditions is GRIP not BRAKES. You will find lots of great recommendations come about August on the wheel and tire forum or the A4 (you have an A4, right?) forum as far as winter tires and wheels.
Any stock Audi already has brakes that are better at stopping quickly than most cars.
Gotta go work, but I'll be back.
(edit:) I forgot to mention that i am in Florida, and that's why I may not have credibility on icy road issues.
06-14-2001, 11:52 PM
Hi again! Must be nice having a TT in Florida, is it quattro as well? I do currently have an A4 1.8t quattro manual(of course!), my 18th birthday present last May. I purchased steel wheels and winter tires during our lovely snow season because I found even with Audi's fabulous brakes and Quattro system, I couldn't stop worth a **** on the Dunlop sport tires, replaced those too though...Anyways, quattro isn't going to help in braking anyway, unless your accelerating at the same time, which I cant do because of the pedal alignment, maybe you could with much bigger feet, but the tires made a HUGE improvement. I couldn't believe how many guys told me that it's all in my head, hmm....no, you cant have my phone #!. But I still thought some further improvement wouldn't hurt, and the pads don't cost much, do you think they won't help shorten stopping distances? Let me know, I dont know if you did any "tests" with yours to compare them to the stock's, but maybe you noticed a difference....let me know. Thanks again.
PS. Driving in MN with terrible weather in the winters and even more terrible drivers all year round makes me so paranoid! I could write a book about my bad experiences on the road, including being ran off the road by check this, OLD people, being assualted by some guy in a debadged Mazda, no I dont know what it was....this guy was a freak though!! Anyways, I'll save it for the book, lol. Your right on that Audi's stock brakes are much quicker than most cars on the road, 99.5% up here. I got rear ended because of this, but the worse part about being rear-ended is if it is by another Audi....Omigod!! It was some dumb chick though, haha.
06-14-2001, 11:59 PM
Cool, I take it you haven't had any problems with using it. I think I might run by Checker's or something later today, thanks again.
Lone Starr (Ivan)
06-15-2001, 04:19 AM
repetitive braking. The stockers would fade after a couple runs at the chicane coming out of the straight, where the MRB's did not. I've been happy with them as long as you don't beleive the hype about the dust, which we already discussed.
At what point did I ask for your #? LOL!
06-16-2001, 04:29 AM
Hey again, I guess I will have to aprreciate them more after a couple hard laps on the track. I haven't done AutoX with my car yet, I just recently signed up for the "quattro club" here in MN, does anyone know if we do a winter event, that would be the BOMB!! I've got some videos of S4's "playing" in the snow, looks like a whole lot of fun. What track do you take your TT? I heard there is alot of tracks you can take your own car on for a small fee, but none around here....if for some reason you had your car in Italy, you could take it on Monza for only 20 bucks! No fair. Ok, well this is the "auto detailing" forum, so I should shaddup, thanks for the good info, I guess I will look into bigger discs, muah hah hah hah.
PS. Sorry about the confusion on the phone # thing, I didn't mean you, you can have my ICQ #, it is 118013149, you can download ICQ from www.ICQ.com
06-17-2001, 09:47 AM
06-17-2001, 09:48 AM
Lone Starr (Ivan)
06-17-2001, 07:50 PM
on her! LOL@ Ellen. Although I did call her babe. ;)