stevenmurray
02-26-2008, 05:54 AM
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/37382/rrpocket.jpg"></center><p>
Yea it has those vestige pockets which looks like the CGT solid beam rear axel could bolt up. Is it true the urq came before the CGT? Perhaps the 1980 urq did not have these pockets, it just became more cost effective to make a common part when the cgt was finally cranked out.
As more parts become NLA - maybe we'll end up converting our urq's to front wheel drive :). Unfortunately I'll have to do some rust repair before I bolt anything in there. Audi - make us some parts!! I think I'll send um a letter.
yodasfro
02-28-2008, 11:23 PM
can't seem to find pics right now but I'm sure Jim can!!!
squidix9
02-29-2008, 04:07 PM
<center><img src="http://wetzelsracing.com/images/underrsm.jpg"></center><p>and a tie-rod link off the back just like a regular suspension. Although they used Hiem joints and different links.
<img src="http://wetzelsracing.com/images/underlsm.jpg">
yodasfro
03-01-2008, 03:40 PM
<ul><li><a href="http://www.mat.fi/project1983audiouattroa2.htm">http://www.mat.fi/project1983audiouattroa2.htm</a</li></ul>
squidix9
03-02-2008, 06:20 AM
I've never seen detailed pictures of that style suspension. That's the original GrpB setup. It's got the steel struts and the older style links and arms.
A good site to bookmark. Thanks for posting those.
fusilier
03-02-2008, 06:58 AM
The rally trailing arms are mounted into welded up brackets on the body. They attached to the Lower tubular control arm at both the front and rear, which looks symmetric as in the pictures which means they're rally. Sport Quattro control arms are asymmetric. Rally cars used Tubular control arms almost from day 0. The strut was steel similary to the factory unit except for several changes such as coil overs and a stud on the bottom rather than a the stock ball joint. This permitted the use of a replaceble heim joint in the control arm link. Steel struts were used in early cars until the A2 when the aluminum and later the Magnesium were homologated for weight savings. Steel struts were continued in practice vehicles. Mounting points for gravel guards, brakes, were largly unchanged.
As in the photos from Finland. the rear diff is mounted to the body rather than the subframe. This permits the subframe being replaceed without having to drop the rear diff which generally never failed. The remainder of the rear subframe is largely stock except for the way the sway bar mounts which is slightly different than stock which permits the use of a larger bar. Sway bars mount to the control arms on a stud which is just like Squid's car too, quite different than a stock 90 which mounts to the strut IIRC.
Front of the rally cars was also abit different. The front subframe was moved forward so that the transmission could be dropped. The also moved the front axle forward which in conjunction to altering the top strut mount increases caster. Most of the front unibody is cut away and the box arm on the radiator side is cut out slightly for the radiator.
squidix9
03-02-2008, 07:25 PM
pictures of the old and new style suspensions.
Katman
03-03-2008, 09:04 AM
Go to picture 11 In Orfsadoy's link.
You can 'sort of' see vestiges of the FWD coupe suspension mounting at the very outer edge of the car. You can also see the 'rally suspension' body end support more inboard, at the front (bottom) end of the link in the picture.
That added 'rally suspension' link has to mount inboard, as it has to attach on the same 'virtual line' as the a arm pivots, or suspension binding would occur.