Interesting especially since this car has the same displacement as us 2.8 V6 guys but in a straight six cylinder, i.e. better torque and 190? HP.
Going from a stop, much faster.
Radio, sounds good, oddball shape, probably no head unit upgrade path.
Re-circulation works without air conditioning compressor on.
17 in tires, nice.
Steering wheel had two nubs on the inside above horn/air bag, I liked it for the 30 minute drive.
Moon roof, same.
Electric head rest up/down, nice but another motor to break.
Engine compartment : Pretty clean
Cabin : Little small, that straight six is long.
Leather : Like mine a little better
Gauges : No oil temp, analog MPG
No center armrest storage.
Wood : Lots more, looked about the same.
A windshield wiper delay you can adjust.
PST, ESP, LSD, whatever they call it, seemed to bog the car down a little bit.
Big mutidot display, about 1.5" tall by 4 or 5 inches wide. I prefer the little 1"*1" display.
Prefer looking at my 7? gauges verses 4 or 5 gauges and the big digital display.
All in all a nice car. Wouldn't cry if I owned it.
06-18-2001, 06:40 PM
Can only comment on the interior... looked a bit cheaper than our interiors. From sitting in one in '97, there is less interior space, especially in the back, but the seats are more supportive. The leather has more grip to it. Layout is ok. Not shabby, just not quite Audi-like! ;)
06-18-2001, 06:49 PM
not really a fair comparison power wise...my mom has a 98 A6 30V and it pulls much better then my 93 12V....when my mom bought the car we tried out a 528 and we had no doubts in our decision to go with the A6...beauty, adequate power (pretty much neck and neck with the BMW), taut suspension and IMO a far nicer auto 5 speed tiptronic transmission...but what really sold us was the A6 interior and luxuries, hands down better then the bimmer...
06-18-2001, 07:04 PM
As far as fair, they are both 2.8 liters. Don't know how many valves the BMW had, I'd suspect the straight six (I6) had more to do with it (quicker off the line) than anything. I never had the car above 50MPH.
As far as the interior, my car is a little nicer but the BMW was no slouch. Remember I have the old style interior too, which in some ways I like a little better, in some ways I like the newer A6 better.
The cars are very very close in features, dark blue metalic, grey leather, 2.8 liters, 6 cylinders, automatic, etc., etc. so I thought the comparison was interesting.
06-18-2001, 07:07 PM
06-18-2001, 07:16 PM
The NeuA6 was a fairly major revamp, but C4 elements remain. The 30v was based on the 12v, and while the transmission is new, the suspension is similar, exhaust layout on the fwd stayed the same (quattro got dual exhaust), quattro IV very similar AFAIK. Brakes the same. New sheet metal means a very different looking car. The interior is just modernized. The extra 25HP I'm sure makes a difference, but I think the C4 A6 can compare well with the likes of a 525/528i, considering the age difference (C4 designed/released in 1991). The power issue kills the car's chances at being a better car overall, though, since so many people are concerned with 0-60 times. Also the Audi vs BMW handling/suspension differences remain I imagine.
06-18-2001, 07:33 PM
who really needs to get to 60 in 5 seconds anyways? ;) ;)
06-18-2001, 08:09 PM
Flat road, straight, no other cars around. I figured... let' see what this baby can do!
Put it in drive.
Left foot on brake.
Right foot on gas.
Start counting in head with pedal to floor.
Let it shift at 5,800-6,000 RPM.
Of what I considered to be normal seconds, something around 8 pass as 60mph is reached.
Given, this is the most flawed testing method known to man. Not even a stopwatch! But I am prepared to back up my claims on the strip. :p
(16.9 @ 85mph?)
Watch out Lincoln Town Car.
06-18-2001, 09:43 PM
Actually, I got the number from the Historical Model guide on this site, I think it is listed as 10.8 seconds but I like to brag about how slow the car is.
The AudiWorld numbers could be wrong as far as I know.
Funny thing is the guy that owns the BMW I drove thinks my car is faster than his ! I guess the grass is always greener.
Jack in FL
06-18-2001, 09:51 PM
But I thought their cars were quieter than the Audi... it's all in your head I think...
Also... same brakes between the C4 and the C5? really? cool! :o)
on a side note... FWD is a tinny bit faster than quattro... wha ha ha! lol, I am pathetic.
I'd love to drive a quattro in bad weather though...
06-19-2001, 03:28 AM
First thing I noticed about the car (when driving) was the enging sounds... not loud like an american car, but the tone is neat. Hey... it's a euro tone.
I'm really liking these pro-C4 threads. Let's do more of them! ;)
06-19-2001, 03:29 AM
10 80lb bags of concrete in the trunk.
06-21-2001, 09:34 AM
I believe oficial testers do not use left foot for break. Plus as I know, manufacturers usualy put slower times in their reports.