Did you ever run these tires on snow and ice? Just wondered as I am going to run them at least for now as all season and have heard they are ok, but want to hear from guru:)

on ice, good being a relative term. I run the Hankook Ice bears for winter. But I also drive around in the snow for the hell of it.

it's hard enough to get one set working correctly on this car let alone two:) I guess I'm just hoping that on regular roads they keep me on the road and not in the ditch...don't plan to use them to go "out to play" in the snow.

You will be much happier in the long run. I really like how they handle the wet pavement in cold weather. Wheels - I just replaced the dual spokes with a set of Rial Flairs which are $119 each at Tire Rack. No vibration for the first time and the tire guy stated they balanced up quickly.

Now if they could only fix the CEL.