01-08-2001, 05:51 PM
We bought a 6-speed allroad a week ago. Although
I really enjoy the car, I'm finding that the
manual transmission is not up to par. Especially
shifting to 2nd gear and sometimes to 3rd. The
shifter feels like I'm not pushing the clutch all
the way but I really am. I was told by others
that I should not expect the best gearbox from
Audi but I find it annoying that my little Honda
shifts better than our luxury car...
Did any of you experience the same or should I
just have it checked by my dealer?
01-08-2001, 09:02 PM
Agreed. Especially when cold, it feels like I am moving a stick around in a bucket of rocks. I would describe it much as you do...my hand gets a little kick as though I have not fully depressed the clutch. Second-to-third is my most problematic sequence, but first-to-second ain't so great either.
I am wondering if a specialist can "blueprint" this transmission to good effect. That question may best be asked in the S4 forum. Perhaps I'll cross-post.
01-09-2001, 10:04 AM
Initially I thought it just needed to "break in" but after 8.5k it's no better. I also have occasional times where I can't get into first at a dead stop, unless I roll forward/back a bit or move it a little in second.
Complained to dealer at 6 months service, but like most of the other complaints, they "could not duplicate".
Unless you notice a big change, I suspect this is by design. VW/Audi just can't seem to make a decent shifting transmission. It's too bad since the rest of the car is outstanding.
This is the main reason that I'm only considering a Tip AllRoad.
01-09-2001, 05:48 PM
As I previously posted, I thought the 6 spd Audi gearbox sucks. Even after I put in the UUC shifter it still was sub-par. It was an easy choice to go with the TIP in my allroad even though I am pretty much a die-hard manual fan.
At least I don't end up hating the tranny in this thing and it doesn't lose any boost between shifts like the manual does. The manual in the Audis really detracts from the driving enjoyment. Mine never did get any better in my A6 2.7T even with quite a few miles on it. This is one area where the BMW's kick the crap out of Audi. Even Honda and Mazda can get it far better.
01-10-2001, 10:39 AM
My A6 2.7 was similar at first but got much smoother with age - 6k and it shifts like my old S6....
01-10-2001, 05:41 PM
My opinion is different. The worst day shifting is better than the best day tipping.*
De gustibus non disputandem est.
*Modified from the bumper sticker "The worst day fishing is better than the best day working."
01-11-2001, 04:44 AM
Thanks to all for your feedback.
Sounds like it's a design flaw. I guess that I was expecting more from
such a high-end car.
I tried the tiptronic and, although it's got a cool name, it's still only
a semi-automatic transmission. I have to agree with BSteely, manual transmissions are the way to go, even if they are not perfect. This especially
applies when you go up and down the Colorado mountains all the time.
Let's hope I got one that gets better in time!
01-11-2001, 05:33 PM
It sounds like its a luck of the draw as to how your manual shifts. My 2.7t A6 6spd was a pile of dung. Even with over 10K miles on it was still balky and easy to miss a shift if you at all hurried it along. It was very easy to beat the syncros as well. The UUC shifter helped somewhat but never eliminated.
I drove others (2.7t's) and they all seemed to suffer the same maladies. I would have loved to have gone the manual in my allroad but if I had waited and got the same POS shifting quality I would have been really PO'd. For what this car costs the tranny should shift like a hot knife through butter. Cmon' if Honda can get it right, why can't Audi? Its now wonder they sell a ton of the UUC shifters. BTW, if you happen to put one in your car Audi may not warranty the tranny if you have any issues.
Audi has become increasingly finicky about what they will warranty. Just by helping them troubleshoot an issue with my own diagnositic tools caused Audi to have a cow. I don't mean the local tech but the regional guys. For those of you thinking about chipping your car, good luck if you ever have any warranty claims. Even if you go the replacement ECU route.