View Full Version : Haldex vs Torsen


RMN
10-11-2005, 09:03 AM
So, with the new A3 3.2Q coming to North America soon, I got into reading about the relative advantages/disadvantages of the Haldex system as compared to the Torsen system.

I know, technically, how they work, and I read through some posts from several years ago. As far as I can tell, Torsen is "safer" in that torque is always split and the system reacts faster to wheel slip. Haldex, however, offers better performance and has a wider operating range (i.e. can transfer a higher percentage of total torque). What do people have to say about this? Opinions/thoughts/flames/real world experiences welcome.

crew219
10-11-2005, 09:05 AM
about it.

Miwa
10-11-2005, 09:35 AM
I far prefer the torsen, but not like I can complain now, as my A3 is FWD. :P

If haldex defaulted to 100% RWD, then folks would be a lot happier with it.

April
10-11-2005, 09:44 AM
and seem to like it a lot.<ul><li><a href="http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/haldex_popup.html">http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/haldex_popup.html</a</li></ul>

RMN
10-11-2005, 09:46 AM
But how is FWD-&gt;AWD actually worse than RWD-&gt;AWD? Do you end up having torque steer issues and such, like a regular FWD?

&lt;dreaming&gt;
Couldn't you, in theory, modify the Haldex software to make it RWD-&gt;AWD? Or, taking that idea further, have a switch (a la APR FlipSwitch, etc) to be able to set FWD/RWD/50-50 under normal conditions? I'd like to see *that*...
&lt;/dreaming&gt;

crew219
10-11-2005, 09:51 AM

racer-genx
10-11-2005, 09:57 AM
Note: Audi A3, sportsback model 2004 is equipped with Haldex gen2 and will not work with the HPP.

radcoup
10-11-2005, 09:57 AM
most likely in the works. No release date or other info.

crew219
10-11-2005, 09:59 AM

April
10-11-2005, 10:16 AM

zidane
10-11-2005, 10:39 AM

DRoOpY
10-11-2005, 10:41 AM
and has better handling characteristics

RMN
10-11-2005, 11:03 AM

Miwa
10-11-2005, 12:42 PM

DRoOpY
10-11-2005, 01:47 PM
the motor placement helps too

hidefTT
10-13-2005, 06:02 AM
I installed it on my current TT and it is a worth while upgrade.

Gives the car a more neutral drive.

I love it!