Hi,

I have a fairly new Silver S3 and am in the UK (essex)...

I'm looking at getting the suspension and brakes sorted out a bit and have heard a bit about these 'MTM' upgrades?

What's the most boost the standard turbo/injectors/chip can run on? What is the standard boost on these? I'm guessing near 1 bar due to the fact it's 210bhp...

Also, i'm after an air filter & exhaust to compliment a boost upgrade.. any recommendations?

I'm really after places in the UK I can get this stuff.


Thanks,

Stu

STU try this website they are the official importer for mtm.<ul><li><a href="http://www.quattrosports.co.uk">http://www.quattrosports.co.uk</a</li></ul>

and I am inclined to do so, I would not go near MTM stuff through quattrosports. Main reason is MTM chips are off the shelf chips programmed for the average engine whereas AmD reprogram the stock chip and tailor it to your car.

in that the MTM chip is programmed using all the factory specs as supplied by Audi specifically for your engine. MTM has a very close working relationship with Audi (or so the story goes :) ).

However David R is quite correct in that there is no on road rolling testing in your car to tailor the chip specifically for your engine, as I understand AMD do.

However I am on my second MTM ECU (1st was in an A4 1.8T) and I can testify to the superb implementation of their ECUs. Many others have done so on this list and others for a long time. The differences between an AMD and MTM ECU must be small indeed but for the purist (and we have a lot of them on this list :) ), the AMD is probably the way to go. Many here have waxed lyrical about the level of service from them too.

Cheers<ul><li><a href="http://www.mtm-online.de/English/hom.htm">http://www.mtm-online.de/English/hom.htm</a</li></ul>

MTM would not supply an ECU until they had all the specs for my car - I had to wait for the dealer to supply them with the ECU serial number/chassis number/engine number following delivery. If an off the shelf one was available I can assure you I would not have waited several weeks for supply - it would have been fitted day 1.

There are "off the shelf suppliers" who will ship direct to you by mail order and I would avoid them.

Cheers

I think one of the problems MTM has in the UK is the suppliers (one in particular) who are not the most knowledgable and have been known to damage engines by chipping them inappropriately.

My engine had a complete diagnostic run on the rolling road before they even opened the ECU box as Scott advises there is one very easy way to break an engine and that is to up the boost on a faulty engine.

It would be unfair to go into detail regards the stories about a certain MTM supplier in the UK as to my mind, they are completely unsubstatiated - but if a good company gives bad advice about another - it is usually worth listening to.

If you can get your rechip through a main dealer and maintain warranty then do that as at the end of the day I'm sure differences between different chips are small.

David

Just because AMD use a Rolling Road does not mean its a great chip. It could infact mean its a dangerous chip. Rolling Roads in certain situations do not replicate the open road.

Is the car mapped properly for each part of throttle application. To do this on the rolling road from what Ive seen is simply not possible. Ive seen cars that on the Rolling Road are not pinking, but off it are.

I not sure there's anything in it between AMD and MTM. However the fact that MTM have closer links to the factory is reasuring to me.

The fact that someone might of heard about a car thats been chipped blow up and then puts it down the chip is always going to happen. Rob on here with his AMD tuned S4 has had problems. Was it a poor AMD chip or an inherent problem with the engine. My guess is the engine. But the same can be said for the engine tuned by MTM.

The MTM has importer backing in a number of countries. This is not a light step for any importer to take. They must have a lot of faith in MTM.

Regarding cost for an S3. AMD is 850+VAT, and MTM 980 +VAT. So not much in it.

Jonathan

I commented that in all likelihood, all chips are relatively equal - it is the manner in which you car is modified that gets the sale.

Cool, thanks guys - something to think about..


Just set a new top speed record tonight, 151mph - not bad for a standard car with a bit of a head wind.. :) (private road of course ;)


Just one more thing, do any of the exhaust manufacturers to a non-cat system? or a cat replacement pipe? I'm positive the s3's will spit flames (i've heard mine pop back in 1st when boosting up) and i'm sure the cat is stopping the fun ;)



Stu

and has done so for several years. Therefore if there were any serious consequences they would have pulled the plug long ago.

Cheers

So I don't think AmD can be blamed. The early S4 turbos were just faulty / badly made.