How many time do you take to put your S3 to 100 km/hour?
I tried three times with my car.
I was driving and my wife was on my side
with the cronograph (at 2 o´clock A.M).
First time: 6´3 seconds.
Second time: 6´4 seconds.
Last time: 6´1 seconds.

Official Figures from the Audi S3 Catalog says
that S3 is 6´8 seconds to 100 Km/H.
I don´t know why there is that diference.

Maybe you all want to try the same experiment!!!

Tell to me your results please!

Jordi
6´1 to 100 Km/H.<ul><li><a href="balneari.prats@ctv.es">balneari.prats@ctv.es</a></li></ul>

My car is only 750km old. I won't try it until it has 1200km on the clock.

And you are right; keeping a dark coloured car clean is really hard. But, it looks amazing if you can.


ravenx
'00 Black S3

When I bought my car (7/08/1999), the first day
I drove 770 Km from Madrid to Girona(where I
live). Now my car is 12.144 Km old.
My dealer said to me that at the first 1.000 Km
you better don´t pass more than 5.000 rpm,
well for me it wasn´t a problem because
at 5.000 rpm the S3 goes at 200 Km/H!!!
If I were you, I will wait untill your car
was 3.000 or 4.000 Km.
But I think you are going to drive a lot
with your S3 and you are going to try it
very yet! Be careful!!!

Jordi
Mingblue S3.
I wish you too, a happy new year and a great holiday season.<ul><li><a href="balneari.prats@ctv.es">balneari.prats@ctv.es</a</li></ul>

How many times down the pub do you have a chat and everyone says their cars are faster to 100km/h than manufacturers figures ?. Most 0-60 carried out on the S3 have it around 6.5-6.8 secs. This is using highly accurate Datron equipment. EVO mag here in the UK last month did a test and a guy on the street could not get within 1.5 sec of the professional tester. The 1.8T engines though are always very tight new when tested and the manufacturers need quote worst figures. It has been said in the press that the S3 engine seems to have wide tollerances between cars. I for one am not sure that there really is the power difference between the TT and the S3. Audi does it for diferentiation.

I have to say that 6.6-6.8 seconds feels about right. The first thing I had to do to the S3 is have an MTM conversion. Now it feels around 5.8 secs. Ive got an Impreza as a second car which has a 0-60 of 5.6 sec according to most magazines. Around Donnington it would keep up with the European Impreza's, but lose out to the STI's.

With the MTM conversion the car is much better. Not as flat as the std car, which was IMHO a competent hot hatch but not an S car. I think it really needs another 30bhp to be fun and get you into trouble. So that the next call after christmas to MTM.

Jonathan




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I bought my car 01.12.99. Brand new as you can imagine. My dealer told me about the 5000rpm thing as well, but I don't give a damn. I just put great emphasis on not pushing the car hard when the engine is cold. I also cool down the turbo for about 2 minutes after parking. I cannot wait till the car is 3000km old, because in my case that will take almost a year. I drive very rare because of the horrifying traffic jams here in Istanbul / Turkey. When I sold my Mitsubishi VR4, it was 30000km / 5 years old. Then I crashed my Fiat Tipo 2.0i 16v and it was 15500km / 2 years old. And just recently I sold my Opel Vectra 2.5i 24v when it was 14000km / 3 years old.

Therefore I don't think that I'll drive a lot in my S3 although it deifinetely is a beautiful car.

Wish you all the best in 2000,

ravenx
'00 Black S3

What is the MTM conversion?
I´ve never heard about it.
Does it work with the S3?<ul><li><a href="balneari.prats@ctv.es">balneari.prats@ctv.es</a</li></ul>

The MTM conversion that I have is just the ECU remap on the S3. I had the S3 dyno'd before and after to check the gains. Its a dyno Ive used for a lot of my cars and has proved to be pretty accurate.

Before 215bhp and 214lbft. After 250bhp and 280lbft. This is excactly as MTM claim increase wise.

It still needs more though and thats why I'm going to look at their apparant 325bhp conversion. I need a Scooby & EVO killer.

Jonathan

I will go for the standard 250 bhp mod as well. I haven't chosen between ABT and MTM yet. 250 bhp with suspension and brake mods sound reasonable for S3.

But, I don't think that the current chasis is able to cope with the 325bhp conversion. Furthermore, I also think that any modification (brake, suspension etc.) you are going to do over the original chasis won't do any good. Do you expect the standard gear box to cope with such power? Well, I don't.

This car is meant to be the ultimate hot hatch. It is not a supercar. The hatch body and the wheelbase don't allow much room for improvement.

Don't kill yourself while trying to kick some Japanese Bad Ass.

ravenx
'00 Black S3

If I go for the 325bhp conversion it will be complemented by AP Racing Brake Kit and a fully adjustable suspension. I will look into the gearbox.

Its just with 250bhp it copes very well. Ive done a few track days in it and its just been too competent. The ideal would be approx 280bhp with brake kit and suspension. Not sure that MTM do a conversion between their 265 and 325. Even if I leave the engine power alone I will an AP Brake Kit

I'll try not to kill myself but am used to owning modified Scoobies with over 300bhp. I keep the fast stuff for the track and use an instructor where I can, or go on driving courses to improve my Track driving. Still waiting for my Quattro driving day that comes free with the car.

Jonathan

I went for MTM because the Abt people work from home in the UK at present.

Well, a modified Subaru should feel quite different than a modified S3. First of all, the Subaru doesn't have a hatch body and chassis. It is a saloon (in some rare cases a coupé, like the STi's or the new P1, which I adore). Consequently the longer wheelbase has a greater tolerance for coping with 300 bhp than the S3. As a result it handles better.

Second, unlike the S3, the Subaru has a permanent 4wheel drive. This makes the Subaru more stable than the S3.

Personally, I think that 250 bhp is more than enough. If you want to deal with Imprezas and Evos, go for Porsche 996 Turbo (yes yes, I know how much it costs).

You are right about the brake modification. The S3 desperately needs better brakes. I'll go for Porsche 993 brake kit conversion.

Looking forward to hear more from you after you have done the mods.

ravenx
'00 Black S3

If you took the 100km/h from the speedometer of your S3 it may have a small error on it as they usually do.

My A3 is actually driveing 95km/h when speedometer shows is 100km/h.

Just nitpicking.

Marko Litmanen

Hi Jonathan,

How did your MTM S3 compare with the Impreza STis?
Quicker lap times or about the same?

I'm also interested in the track days you mentioned. Did you have to arrange extra insurance on your car etc? Plus what was it like on the track? I've never been to a track day, but I have heard that some can be like a free-for-all, and accidents can happen quite easily.

Any advice is appreciated.

Cheers,

Alan
'99.5 A3 1.8T MS Silver

Ive done Donnington in my STI V and UK Impreza. When I took the S3 it was with the Subaru Impreza Drivers Club. Out of 40 cars only 6 were none Impreza ( four were EVO VI's).

I thought of putting a target on the back of the car !!. In the end I was very suprised with the performance of the S3. The only time the STI's were quicker was down Donnington's main back straight, and even then by only a couple of car lengths. The S3's straight line speed was equal to a UK car with filter and exhaust mods putting out about 240bhp. Round the bends it was the equal of the Scoobies and for feel on the limit it was suprisingly good. The first time I went out it was damp.

The only real thing that lets it down are the brakes. After 1 track day the pads were gone.
I was braking very early and not too hard. The other problem is the roll and lack of grip offered by the Recaro's over the Impreza set up.
(Mines Leather and Alcantara)

I'm not going to qualify as the best driver and as timing is banned for Insurance Purposes I couldnt say what the real difference is. However its not a big gap. The S3 has 280lb ft low down compared to most STI's 250 odd (measured on the same dyno). What I would say is that in day to day driving the S3 is quicker - no real lag and loads of torque.

With track days I've only done about 6, but some are well organised, some are not. A good track day will not allow agressive driving, will split sessions into ability and cars etc. My normal road insurance covers me if there is no racing or timing. I know of one car written off and the insurance company paid up.

Jonathan

re Track Days
I've been to a couple with my old 1985 80 Sport.They were organised by VW/Audi Car Magazine at Castle Coombe. Only eight or so cars are allowed out at any one time and for ten minute sessions.There are a wide range of Audis but generally they are all the quick or quicker models.There is always instruction available and a briefing session from a course clerk before.I was left in no doubt that there would be no messing about on the track ! I am only aware of one big spin ,a Golf, and it resulted in light panel damage on one side, from contact with a tyre wall. With only eight out at any time I found that cars were well spread out by the end of a couple of laps . I had previously been on the Quattro Driving Course, at the same cicuit, and found that a great help.

I'm not convinced about the insurance aspects so check out before.

Have a go!

I am just waiting to take delivery of new black S3 in Australia. S3's seem to be coming in with Pirelli P6000's. Not my favourite tyre.

Has any one got any comments on tyres on their S3?
Which are best?

PS I am also going for MTM ECU upgrade like ravenx. We should swap notes as I have just sold my 300BHP WRX to get the S3.

I have puchased a new S3 the other day and would like to put a upgaded mtm ecu chip in it.

Where can I get the a mtm ecu upgrade that you are talking about from?

http://www.mtm-online.de

ravenx
'00 Black S3