View Full Version : Alcon Ap or any other good brake companies


speedymon
02-26-2004, 07:25 PM
Do any of these companies produce a 6 or 8 piston brake kit for the a4? I saw a Tar Ox setup a long time ago but cant remember what company sold it
lltek sells an 8 piston kit but im not too sure about it anyone run it yet?

Žob
02-26-2004, 07:33 PM

cuatrokoop
02-26-2004, 08:41 PM
I highly recommend Brembo/Porsche brakes. Movits are nice, so are Stoptechs. The P-car brakes can be done very inexpensively...

A400
02-26-2004, 08:49 PM

Steve_Ag Arrow
02-26-2004, 09:14 PM

xr4tic
02-26-2004, 09:16 PM
but I'm guessing it might not bolt up to the A4

JWG
02-26-2004, 09:36 PM
on the Stoptech retaining pins?

ryoung
02-27-2004, 12:50 AM
What did you do for a parking brake, or are you going without?

Steve_Ag Arrow
02-27-2004, 07:17 AM
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/5987/dsc00405.jpg"></center><p>leave it in gear

cuatrokoop
02-27-2004, 07:32 AM
The "floating" type caliper use slides/guide pins, and the piston housing actually moves.

At least that is my understanding of it.

ryoung
02-27-2004, 09:03 AM
Did you happen to get a back-to-back of the original sliding versus this Alcon fixed caliper? In particular, was there a noticeable improvement in pedal feel?

A400
02-27-2004, 04:34 PM

A400
02-27-2004, 04:42 PM
Grassroots motorsports mag had a great article on this last month.
Rod

A400
02-27-2004, 04:44 PM

markbradford
02-27-2004, 06:07 PM
Had a set of APR Stoptech calipers and had nothing but problems with the caliper bridge bolts. Problem? User error. I was overtightening the hell out of them. Got new calipers, got th torque spec right, and have had zero problems with thdm whatsoever.

Žob
02-27-2004, 07:37 PM
I've seem a lot of friends with issues. Soft bolt heads and stripped. Then you have to drill em out. They should have used pins like Brembo. Those are much easier to manage.

cuatrokoop
02-28-2004, 08:09 AM
is sandwiched between the hub and wheel by 10.8 or 12.9 grade metric bolts, which are torqued to 70-90ft-lbf.

A floating rotor has enlongated holes in which bolts are passed through connecting the hat/mounting bell to the rotor. The two can only move radially, not axially. This allows for a difference in thermal expansion rates. Not all two-piece rotors are floating, I know that Vortrag used non-floating Colemans with the 993C2 based kit, at least on my car (which was the first they did).

markbradford
02-28-2004, 02:23 PM
you'd have to be a complete retard to strip those bolts. The torque spec for them makes it nearly impossible.

Žob
02-29-2004, 07:58 AM
which could be the case ;)

markbradford
02-29-2004, 03:58 PM

Steve_Ag Arrow
02-29-2004, 04:07 PM

speedymon
02-29-2004, 05:09 PM
Eurospec sells a 4 piston ap kit
woohoo!!!!!
But they dont say what size rims you can run<ul><li><a href="http://www.eurospecsport.com/db/details.php?id=376">http://www.eurospecsport.com/db/details.php?id=376</a></li></ul>

CP
03-01-2004, 04:45 PM
Might want to inquire about that so you don't have to be constantly rebuilding them. Something to look into if you plan to drive it in the wintertime. Personally I'd save the $500 and get a Stoptech kit.

Liam in Montreal
03-02-2004, 06:05 AM
boxter would be cheaper, and more than you need.

ryoung
03-02-2004, 08:37 AM
they've survived three years and three salty Pennsylvania winters without problem. The lack of dust seals is a concern, though, but I use brake cleaner to thoroughly clean the pistons before pushing them back in when changing pads. I assume this helps somewhat to prevent scored seals.

BTW: As often as not, I think that external dust seals melt/burn away on the track.

CP
03-08-2004, 10:04 PM