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Shoe
10-31-2000, 08:46 PM
I was taking my 1.8T through the canyons and noticed that the steering feels detached from the road. I heard of people taking out their power steering to get more feedback but that's too extreme for me. Are there any other options like changing steering fluid?

thanks

Macabre
10-31-2000, 09:17 PM
Gives a "just right" feel IMHO, plus the extra power and willingness to rev are nice bonuses.<ul><li><a href="http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/">Unorthodox Racing</a></li></ul>

Shoe
10-31-2000, 10:48 PM
I have heard that they were a major waste of time for some Japanese cars like Hondas and Acuras but the gains are supposedly better with a forced induced engine. Are thier any disadvantages with it?

thanks,

britoki (Brian T)
11-01-2000, 12:31 AM

WJM
11-01-2000, 07:13 AM
when you go to a lower profile you will get more road feedback. There was a huge difference between my 16s and 17s.
-Will

HJB
11-01-2000, 08:18 AM
it creates a virtual steering axis closer to the center of the contact patch. So you get less torque steer, but less feedback also! Reducing wheel offset from stock (+45) to aftermarket (+35) might also improve feel (I'm running stock for now).

eharleq
11-01-2000, 08:33 AM
It is the linkage that is the problem, this is also compounded with the unsporting alignment. The best solution for this specific problem is to run much stiffer tires. You want lower profile, but not wider for feel. So go plus1 in a 17", or run some "R" tires in the 16".

I wouldn't touch the pulley with a 10' pole. It voids the warranty and you ALREADY have speed sensitive steering. It is the wrong solution for any problem, since it does nothing for the link or the high profile stock tire.

If you have money, check out the camber adj. links or even a 1 element arm (like they use in the race car).

HJB
11-01-2000, 08:44 AM
they would edge out BMW on many of the reviews I've seen. Another problem with the 4-link is control arm failures. Did they fix that? Let's hope so :)

SAvant
11-01-2000, 08:53 AM
They surmised that the pulley increased vibration or created a harmonic that imploded the oil pump. This may or may not be applicable to the Audi engine, however. If you go to miatapower.net and do a search, you will find lots of discussion about this.<ul><li><a href="http://www.miatapower.net/">http://www.miatapower.net/</a</li></ul>

WJM
11-01-2000, 09:08 AM
and the general consensus was that they were bad for the A4

Macabre
11-01-2000, 10:14 AM

ARK
11-01-2000, 10:22 AM

ARK
11-01-2000, 10:27 AM
higher spring rate. The underdrive pulley sets will only reduce the assist level at idle, or low RPMs.

eharleq
11-01-2000, 01:14 PM

HJB
11-01-2000, 03:38 PM

Dr. Mike
11-03-2000, 08:00 AM
Hello,

Check the archives. There has been a number of lively and thankfully friendly discussions.

I think pulleys are not a good thing for a daily driver based on my experience with a different 1.8L motor. Others have claimed 18hp and no ill effects.

If anyone has actual dyno numbers (before/after) NOT provided by the manufacturer of the pulley showing an increase, I will recant all my posts against doing this for the Audi 1.8. Empirical data makes everyone happy!!!

Cheers!

Michael