EighTT
06-19-2000, 01:25 PM
I posted this earlier, but it was in response to another post, and got sent to page 2 pretty quickly. Here's a repost for those who care:
Contrary to popular opinion, I don't think the Mark II sucks. I preferred the original Mark I suspension, but the Mark II is certainly not all bad. I'm glad you (Lloyd) are it enjoying more, now that you have a couple days of driving under your belt.
One note with regard to the coilovers, is that they are much firmer, in my view. Remember that I am going from a roadster's shocks, which are 10% softer than the coupe's to begin with. So the difference is probably more dramatic for me than if I was going from stock coupe shocks to coilovers.
There is an upside and a downside to these coilovers, in my view. The upside is that handling is greatly improved. Cornering is much better, flatter, and the car feels far more planted to the pavement.
The downside is that the ride is harsher. You will feel every bump in the road. I think that one could do a long trip with the coilovers, but there's no question that the stock suspension is more cushy. There are some elements of cushy that are good, and other elements that are not so good. If I could dial out about 5% of the coilover's firmness, I would probably do so. Maybe it will soften up just a hair once it is broken in.
I'm sure that many have read some of the comments from Cliff, Mance, myself, and others with regard to these coilovers. But they are spendy at $2,000+ with installation, and I feel that they are not for everyone.
So in other words, before you purchase these coilovers, I think that you need to ask yourself what type of driver you are. Do you live for the twisties? Do you like to push this car to near its limits? Do you drive your TT aggressively? (don't confuse this with driving like an ass*ole.)Are you willing to sacrifice a fair amount of ride comfort for a substantially better sports handling package? Can you easily afford them?
If the answers to most or all of the above is "yes", than coilovers are likely for you. If the answer is "no", save your money and your tushy.
There are a fair amount of us in our mid-thirties. $2,000 compounded at 12% per year for 30 years grows to almost $60,000. If you're not sure if these are for you, you could put the money into a Roth Ira instead, and let it grow tax free. Add another $2,000 per year for the next 30 years, compounded at an assumed rate of 12%, you will have almost $545,000 tax-free at age 65. Obviously this is only an illustration for the fun of it, and I am making certain assumptions.
Now remember, this only my view. Others may disagree, and that's great. Not only is it okay to disagree, but I encourage it. So long as the disagreement is not done in a confrontational manner. Everyone is entitled to share their views in a friendly way, and let each individual digest it all and decide for themselves what makes sense.<p><img src="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds/1.jpg" border="0">
<B>Brad Willis</B>
<FONT COLOR="#FF6600">Mk 1.5 225q TT Roadster
H&R Coilovers
No Garrett
No Stickers</FONT>
<A HREF="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds">SoCal Audi TT Club</A>
Contrary to popular opinion, I don't think the Mark II sucks. I preferred the original Mark I suspension, but the Mark II is certainly not all bad. I'm glad you (Lloyd) are it enjoying more, now that you have a couple days of driving under your belt.
One note with regard to the coilovers, is that they are much firmer, in my view. Remember that I am going from a roadster's shocks, which are 10% softer than the coupe's to begin with. So the difference is probably more dramatic for me than if I was going from stock coupe shocks to coilovers.
There is an upside and a downside to these coilovers, in my view. The upside is that handling is greatly improved. Cornering is much better, flatter, and the car feels far more planted to the pavement.
The downside is that the ride is harsher. You will feel every bump in the road. I think that one could do a long trip with the coilovers, but there's no question that the stock suspension is more cushy. There are some elements of cushy that are good, and other elements that are not so good. If I could dial out about 5% of the coilover's firmness, I would probably do so. Maybe it will soften up just a hair once it is broken in.
I'm sure that many have read some of the comments from Cliff, Mance, myself, and others with regard to these coilovers. But they are spendy at $2,000+ with installation, and I feel that they are not for everyone.
So in other words, before you purchase these coilovers, I think that you need to ask yourself what type of driver you are. Do you live for the twisties? Do you like to push this car to near its limits? Do you drive your TT aggressively? (don't confuse this with driving like an ass*ole.)Are you willing to sacrifice a fair amount of ride comfort for a substantially better sports handling package? Can you easily afford them?
If the answers to most or all of the above is "yes", than coilovers are likely for you. If the answer is "no", save your money and your tushy.
There are a fair amount of us in our mid-thirties. $2,000 compounded at 12% per year for 30 years grows to almost $60,000. If you're not sure if these are for you, you could put the money into a Roth Ira instead, and let it grow tax free. Add another $2,000 per year for the next 30 years, compounded at an assumed rate of 12%, you will have almost $545,000 tax-free at age 65. Obviously this is only an illustration for the fun of it, and I am making certain assumptions.
Now remember, this only my view. Others may disagree, and that's great. Not only is it okay to disagree, but I encourage it. So long as the disagreement is not done in a confrontational manner. Everyone is entitled to share their views in a friendly way, and let each individual digest it all and decide for themselves what makes sense.<p><img src="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds/1.jpg" border="0">
<B>Brad Willis</B>
<FONT COLOR="#FF6600">Mk 1.5 225q TT Roadster
H&R Coilovers
No Garrett
No Stickers</FONT>
<A HREF="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds">SoCal Audi TT Club</A>