Got cited for making a right turn on red last night against posted sign (of course I didn't see it). It was dark, in a residential area, very light traffic, and I was not familiar with the neighborhood. I stopped at the light, saw and waited for the cop to go through the intersection before making the right turn. The cop pulled aside, let me pass him and then stopped me and gave me a ticket. He wrote 'Audi A8' on the ticket instead of 'Audi A6' despite having my registration and insurance papers to go by, not to mention the insignia on the trunk lid. So can I get this ticket void due to this technicality? This happened in the Los Angeles area. Otherwise I will have to go to traffic school.
09-04-2002, 03:55 PM
if they have your license plate number...you are out of luck....but then again, you can always fight it through the mail and got a better chance of getting your case being dropped...good luck
09-04-2002, 04:02 PM
It probably won't work...
09-04-2002, 04:09 PM
the model of the car is basically immaterial if he got the correct plate, and more importantly, your correct driver's license ID. If you catch the cop on a really good day and he's in a dealing mood, maybe you can talk w/ the prosecutor and him on your court date and try and reduce it to a warning, but beating it's a real long shot.
09-04-2002, 04:10 PM
You did the crime, right?
09-04-2002, 04:10 PM
.... a friend of mine had his ticket voided because 2 of the plate numbers were transposed on the ticket. I am just wondering if all the info recorded on the ticket have to be correct in order for the ticket to be valid. Any traffic lawyers out there that can help?
09-04-2002, 04:24 PM
I know of precedence that an incorrectly recorded license plate number (with two digits transposed) was enough to void a ticket in our area (LA) so I was just looking for advise to see if this applies to the other info recorded on the ticket as well, items such as names and vehicle description. I know I most likely made that illegal turn and I most likely will pick traffic school and be super careful for the next 18 months. I do appreciate your expert advise.
09-04-2002, 04:31 PM
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09-04-2002, 05:42 PM
I may not have read your orig. post carefully, but if you stopped, he went through the [green] light, and he let you pass [after you turned rt. on red and fell in behind him], I'm not sure I understand why he cited you in the first place...
09-04-2002, 06:27 PM
.... posted 'no right turn on red' sign. I guess he must have anticipated my mistake and watched me commiting it in his rear mirror. That must be a popular intersection for catching unattentive soul like me. Just tough luck I guess.
09-04-2002, 07:15 PM
I don't believe the officer's mistake will have any impact. However, you did mention that the visibility was poor. You could take a picture in identical circumstances and take it to court with you. After all, you did stop, and proceeded only when you thought it was safe to do so (shows good faith and responsibility). Go to court and be polite; make your your point. The sign was not clearly visible. What are the chances of encountering one of those signs? Typically, only locals are aware of them. You have nothing to lose, and it may impress the judge in your favor. With luck, the police officer may not even show up, in which case it defaults in your favor.
09-04-2002, 07:30 PM
09-04-2002, 08:19 PM
Came across it the other day looking to get out of a ticket here in TX. Specific to CA, so it may have some good info for you.<ul><li><a href="http://www.ticketassassin.com/">Ticket Assassin</a></li></ul>
09-04-2002, 09:05 PM
Wasn't as bad as going in to the class - didn't have to listen to stories about who had what tattooed on his wahoo (really!), and moved at my own pace. Had to take the test in a classroom though, took about an hour. Try to make the best of it, a little perspective never hurts.
09-05-2002, 03:54 AM
Find out the exact staute that you violated. Then do your "Legal" research.
1) What exactly does the staute state?
2) Are there any laws regarding visibility?
3) Are there laws stating the hours the staute is in effect?
4) Are there any laws stating how many "No turn on Red" signs need to be in place for this staute to be "legal."
5) Are there any laws determining the height signs must be (actually a case was almost won here in NYC due to a sign being too high! Unfortunately, the defendant didn't bring in physical evidence proving this. But the next day, all signs were lowered in Manhattan!)
6) Check all the logistics of the ticket: Time, Date, Location, Conditions. Look for inconsistences...
Just a start for you...
09-05-2002, 06:19 AM
09-05-2002, 08:14 AM
I dumped the link when I finished, don't remember the name, sorry. But it was a specific solution just for this county.
09-05-2002, 06:11 PM
There is a law on the books in Chicago that there needs to be 2 'No turn on red' signs marking the intersection. One before the intersection and one across the street.
I beat the ticket because there was only one sign. The sign was before the intersection.
Hope this helps.