4.0 turbo Audi warranty extension announced
03-30-2022, 06:37 AM
#51
Super-Duper User
It's yet to be seen. I have posted more comments on this topic in another thread. We have at least three threads on this same discussion now!
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03-30-2022, 11:36 AM
#52
Flagship addict
Well as I read the details in the recall, it sure does describe the condition of my turbos (impeller blade wear and contact with housing) and gives me hope they will indeed replace them because of this. "A blocked oil strainer within the oil supply for the turbocharger leads to a lack of lubrication of the turbocharger bearings. This causes wear on the bearings and, as a result, the turbine wheel of the turbocharger may contact the housing, or the turbocharger shaft can break. This could lead to a lack of power or even stalling, which could increase the risk of a crash."
03-30-2022, 01:36 PM
#53
You are correct that not all wear items are defective. However, when a deign flaw results in a failure that can cause a dangerous situation, the company is likely liable. That liability increases when they know about the defect, but fail to disclose the defect and allow consumers to randomly experience a catastrophic engine failure. The NHTSA has now found that the oil strainer is an unsafe defect, and thus, has ordered a recall. The repair is at a minimum a new designed oil strainer (hopefully the new design does not clog). It seems that if the turbos have already suffered damage, the recall should include replace of such turbos. Product liability law is well developed and I would have to have more information on when Audi first learned of the defect. Moreover, was the oil strainer “state of the art” design (i.e., could another design have reasonably been used). I think the available evidence demonstrates that the oil strainer could of (and should have) been designed differently. There was also the potential to have replacement of the oil strainer been a maintenance item. I suspect Audi might have thought having such a maintenance item would have been poorly received by customers. I certainly would have viewed it negatively. But I would have preferred knowing that, rather than having a dangerous and disruptive engine failure. It is for these, and others reasons I am so disappointed in Audi’s actions to date.
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/202...2V178-9222.pdf
03-30-2022, 02:27 PM
#54
AudiWorld Junior Member
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Striker2237
Jesus man, please tell me you are not using the car with it like that?
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03-31-2022, 11:08 AM
#57
The whole timeline is in the following letter, and it's pretty interesting. Audi all along denied it was a safety issue, instead claiming it was just a quality issue, but NHTSA seems to have kept pushing that maybe it was, until Audi finally decided to do the voluntary recall; NHTSA did not order the recall (though whether they would have ordered one eventually if Audi didn't voluntarily do it, I have no idea).
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/202...2V178-9222.pdf
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/202...2V178-9222.pdf
03-31-2022, 01:36 PM
#58
I have been driving all kind of Audi's for the last 4 decades, the Dieselgate and this turbo issue made me rethink about the brand... it is the first time that I'm "Audi less" and I'm not so sure if I'm going back.....
