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Old 03-29-2014, 12:00 AM
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I made a topic in the Q7 section but since I've seen that people get more help in this subforum and this is a pretty general question, I'll try here too... 2 days ago my other cars (Q7) MMI stopped working properly. It starts (shows the logo) and then shuts down (Optical loop issue probably). Did the VCDS scan today and the results are:
Code:
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
6F-Centr. Conv. II -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
Did the optical loop scan and it came up with this:
Code:
Optical Bus Diagnostic : 3dB Attenuation
Controller          	Electrical          	Optical             
19-CAN Gateway      	OK                 	OK                  
07-Control Head(High/D3)	OK                  	OK                  
0E-Media Player 1   	OK                  	OK                  
77-Telephone        	OK                  	OK                  
47-Sound System     	OK                  	ERROR               
56-Radio            	OK                  	OK                  
37-Navigation       	OK                  	OK
I've searched the forums and I'm thinking that the Bose Amp might be broken but so far the other scans I found showed errors for both Sound System checks (Electrical and optical).

Before I take it to the stealership to see whats wrong can anyone confirm this or have any idea what's the case here?
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Looks like you are right about amplifier. Start with checking fiber-optic connection there. Next would be loop to bypass it and see if all other modules become accessible. The last would be eBay amplifier. No dealer if there is any chance.

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You might want to first try something simple and check the amp fuse.
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Originally Posted by mishar
Start with checking fiber-optic connection there. Next would be loop to bypass it and see if all other modules become accessible
Agreed.

Also check for water incursion from drains and the the purple stain issue.

EDIT: See also PDF in this post https://www.audiworld.com/forums/sho...05&postcount=1
What is the malfunction on the RRD ? Makes me suspicious of water...

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Looks like I have to take apart the luggage area... Water damage might be the case since I have the panoramic roof and these are known for their unreliability in keeping the water outside of the car.
Had an issue in autumn I think where after a car wash the sound system stopped working but everything else was working and the MMI came on nicely. Rebooting, leaving the car parked for a while, etc nothing worked until at some point during the drive in the evening it started working again. No symptoms other than stuck on "mute". I had a look at the amp then and it seemed fine outside, no water marks anywhere and since it seemed like a pain to get it fully out I didn't check any further.
Worked fine so far but the issue occurred after the car had been parked for a few hours.
Not sure what the Optical Bus Diagnostics means by "electrical" and "optical" categories exactly but I'd assume that this isn't a power issue since "electrical" is checked as OK. I'll have a look at the fuse anyway just to be sure.

Agreed.

Also check for water incursion from drains and the the purple stain issue.

EDIT: See also PDF in this post https://forums.audiworld.com/showpost...05&postcount=1
What is the malfunction on the RRD ? Makes me suspicious of water...
By RRD I assume You mean the rear door malfunction?
Code:
1 Fault Found:
02126 - Central Locking Button; Exterior Door Handle 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 111767 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.01.25
                    Time: 11:21:19
Since Q7's also have typical issues with the keyless system, then the door handle lock buttons don't work. No easy fix and I'm not willing to pay 200€ for each door handle just to lock it without having to push the button on the key fob. Keyless entry works fine so I can live with this.

Are those optical fiber loops available at dealerships as well? Since stuff from ebay gets here in about a week I'd rather take it apart first to see if the amp has any water damage.
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