G-Tech times for 2.7T Tip, S6 Avant, and 4.2...
11-05-2002, 04:28 PM
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G-Tech times for 2.7T Tip, S6 Avant, and 4.2...
Today I took my 2.7T tip loaner out for some G-Tech runs...I was surprised how "slow" it was compared to the 4.2...it really feels fast on the highway and through the corners and stuff...but the G-Tech showed it a bit slower than I thought...
0-60 (range 6.87-7.19)...typical/average 7.01
1/4 mi (range 15.3-15.9...93-95 mph) typical/average 15.6, 94 mph
Original and repeat runs with the 4.2
0-60 (best 6.5)...typical/average 6.71
1/4 mi (range 14.8-15.1...97-100 mph)...typical/average 14.9...99 mph
Original and repeat runs with the S6
0-60 (best 6.08)...typical/average 6.30
1/4 mi (range 14.1-14.6...100-104 mph)...typical/average 14.35...102 mph
On my most recent runs in the 4.2 and S6, I did very slightly better best and average, but really only ~0.03 avg better 0-60 and ~0.05 better at the 1/4)...both cars were similarly improved.
The best time I got with the 2.7T was using a little power-braking...stomping on the gas with the brake on for a split second until the revs got up to ~1500 or so...Without power-braking, all 0-60 times were > 7.00 and >15.5)...one caveat however, is that the 2.7T was burdened with an extra 100 pounds (my wife
...but had less gas in it than the full tanks of the S6 and 4.2.
I have not done the power-braking with the 4.2 and S6...I'm a wuss...they are my cars!
0-60 (range 6.87-7.19)...typical/average 7.01
1/4 mi (range 15.3-15.9...93-95 mph) typical/average 15.6, 94 mph
Original and repeat runs with the 4.2
0-60 (best 6.5)...typical/average 6.71
1/4 mi (range 14.8-15.1...97-100 mph)...typical/average 14.9...99 mph
Original and repeat runs with the S6
0-60 (best 6.08)...typical/average 6.30
1/4 mi (range 14.1-14.6...100-104 mph)...typical/average 14.35...102 mph
On my most recent runs in the 4.2 and S6, I did very slightly better best and average, but really only ~0.03 avg better 0-60 and ~0.05 better at the 1/4)...both cars were similarly improved.
The best time I got with the 2.7T was using a little power-braking...stomping on the gas with the brake on for a split second until the revs got up to ~1500 or so...Without power-braking, all 0-60 times were > 7.00 and >15.5)...one caveat however, is that the 2.7T was burdened with an extra 100 pounds (my wife
...but had less gas in it than the full tanks of the S6 and 4.2.I have not done the power-braking with the 4.2 and S6...I'm a wuss...they are my cars!
11-05-2002, 04:31 PM
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Power braking doesn't amount for much on the 4.2, the Tip and reaction is
sloooooooooow. I had a 2.7T in TIP for a loaner and talk about slow! It was aweful! I would never buy a 2.7T in TIP!
I agree with you.
I agree with you.
11-05-2002, 05:35 PM
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Thanks for the times
the best we did with a stock Tip 2.7T was 6.45(it was Luckylady's car, she used to post here)
Steve B got 7.11 by just hitting the gas from a standstill no brake torque.
The stock 2.7T TIp did 15.21(timeslip) at Pomona in 93 degrees and with pump gas, 29.5lb wheels. This also was the very first time the driver ran the 1/4 mile. Screwed up using Tip mode. So maybe a 15.0 at Carlsbad.
Steve B got 7.11 by just hitting the gas from a standstill no brake torque.
The stock 2.7T TIp did 15.21(timeslip) at Pomona in 93 degrees and with pump gas, 29.5lb wheels. This also was the very first time the driver ran the 1/4 mile. Screwed up using Tip mode. So maybe a 15.0 at Carlsbad.
11-06-2002, 06:47 AM
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I used to drag race - with your S6, you are almost in the 13's (more)
For a "heavy, 4/5 door vehicle with tall gearing" that is amazingly fast!! I used to run a modified 1971 340 Duster and when it was stock it was a low 14 second car (high 12's after a lot of mods) and even stock it would eat up 95% of what I would race against.
If Audi would offered a "performance" final ratio like the 540 offers with its sport package you would have a mid 13sec machine..........
Hmmm...
If Audi would offered a "performance" final ratio like the 540 offers with its sport package you would have a mid 13sec machine..........
Hmmm...
11-06-2002, 07:05 AM
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Passat W8, with almost identical drivetrain, has a shorter final drive...
3.5 vs 2.7 to 1, if memory serves, precisely to improve the off-the-line numbers and feel for North American tastes
It would be expensive (but possible to do) after-market, or easy for Audi to offer as an option. Now, without taller final gears in the tip, it would reduce the top end to a rev-limited 225 km/hr (140 mph) by my calculations.
It would be expensive (but possible to do) after-market, or easy for Audi to offer as an option. Now, without taller final gears in the tip, it would reduce the top end to a rev-limited 225 km/hr (140 mph) by my calculations.
11-06-2002, 08:47 AM
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Huh? What "should" a stock S4 do?
1/4: 14.0/104-105 or so?
My times are very consistent with what a lot of automags have reported...perhaps I'm about 0.1 slower...but I don't do this for a living. Either way, when I use the G-Tech it is very consistent with each car I drive. Of course there is variability but I think that is real, not G-Tech error. I usually "know" when I've got a good time going vs a slow one...
Others have reported very consistent results with what has been obtained at the track...it certainly isn't the gold standard, but a pretty good approximate for $130 or so...
My times are very consistent with what a lot of automags have reported...perhaps I'm about 0.1 slower...but I don't do this for a living. Either way, when I use the G-Tech it is very consistent with each car I drive. Of course there is variability but I think that is real, not G-Tech error. I usually "know" when I've got a good time going vs a slow one...
Others have reported very consistent results with what has been obtained at the track...it certainly isn't the gold standard, but a pretty good approximate for $130 or so...
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11-06-2002, 10:00 AM
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Gtech has trouble with manual cars because of the shifting motion
Automatics get a more realistic number. Now whenever it was used at the drags, it was always within .05 of the 1/4 timeslip, but was usually 2mph higher than the timeslip. Maybe because it takes its reading at the finish rather than 60' before and after the finish. Again that was with automatics with doesnt have that violent up and down movement when shifting.