Excessive Road Noise? I'm thinking it's the Pirelli's...
09-11-2013, 10:10 AM
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Excessive Road Noise? I'm thinking it's the Pirelli's...
Have not posted much on here and was not able to find much searching for Pirelli or road noise as the title thread. I own a 2012 A6 3.0T Prestige w/ 19" Sport Pkg and also a 2012 R8 V10. Both have been fabulous cars thus far, though unfortunately I don't get enough chances to drive the R8 due to my work schedule (only 1800 miles on the ODO since taking delivery 6 months ago).
Well both of the cars have P-Zero tires. The A6 now has 17,500 miles, and over time the road noise and the ride comfort has taken a nose dive. I cannot say the same for the R8 since it only has 1800 miles on it, but I do not notice as much road noise in it as in the A6. I noticed the road noise in the A6 pretty early on, and unless I am driving on a newly paved road, there is a constant growl coming from the tires. It is terrible on rough sections of concrete, pavement with small cracks in it, etc. The ride comfort is also pretty poor over bumpy roads, or even the filler they use on cracks in the pavement. On a side note, I also have noticed the same thing on a few A4 loaners I drove while my A6 was in the shop for routine maintenance. I observed that they also had Pirelli tires, albeit a different model. So this makes two possibilities: either Pirelli tires pretty much suck across the board for road noise, or there is poor engineering on Audi's part in keeping road noise out.
My plan at this time is to replace the P-Zero tires, which still have over 50% tread, with either Hankook Ventus Noble S12 or Bridgestone RE970. I am hoping this will solve the problem or greatly help, but I would love to hear other members input on this. If you suffered from similar issues, how much did replacing with different tires help? Hope to get some replies! Thanks!
Well both of the cars have P-Zero tires. The A6 now has 17,500 miles, and over time the road noise and the ride comfort has taken a nose dive. I cannot say the same for the R8 since it only has 1800 miles on it, but I do not notice as much road noise in it as in the A6. I noticed the road noise in the A6 pretty early on, and unless I am driving on a newly paved road, there is a constant growl coming from the tires. It is terrible on rough sections of concrete, pavement with small cracks in it, etc. The ride comfort is also pretty poor over bumpy roads, or even the filler they use on cracks in the pavement. On a side note, I also have noticed the same thing on a few A4 loaners I drove while my A6 was in the shop for routine maintenance. I observed that they also had Pirelli tires, albeit a different model. So this makes two possibilities: either Pirelli tires pretty much suck across the board for road noise, or there is poor engineering on Audi's part in keeping road noise out.
My plan at this time is to replace the P-Zero tires, which still have over 50% tread, with either Hankook Ventus Noble S12 or Bridgestone RE970. I am hoping this will solve the problem or greatly help, but I would love to hear other members input on this. If you suffered from similar issues, how much did replacing with different tires help? Hope to get some replies! Thanks!
09-11-2013, 10:18 AM
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This has been discussed on the S6 forum since the cars come with Pzeros. Yes the tires are noisy. Most folks are replacing with Michelin Pilot Super Sports (myself included) and they make a big difference in noise comfort with a step up in performance, but they're not cheap however.
09-11-2013, 10:20 AM
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This has been discussed on the S6 forum since the cars come with Pzeros. Yes the tires are noisy. Most folks are replacing with Michelin Pilot Super Sports (myself included) and they make a big difference in noise comfort with a step up in performance, but they're not cheap however.
09-11-2013, 10:32 AM
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I dumped my P-Zeros after 500 miles and went with the RE970 and have been very pleased. I've never been a fan of any Pirelli since my 09 A4 which came with Pirelli P6 (sometimes referred to as the "PPS" - Pirelli Perfectly Square). RE970 noise is not bad at all, especially when compared to the P-Zeros and handling, IMO, is very close as well. Tread life will be about 35-40% better with the RE970AS.
09-11-2013, 10:51 AM
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The Michelin just came out with some all season pilot super sport tires. They haven't been thoroughly tried but because of how well the summer tires are it is something to consider.
09-11-2013, 12:34 PM
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I love the S6, as do most owners who value luxury and comfort above ultimate performance. It has all the stuff you like about your A6, but with much a more powerful motor, adjustable suspension, better braking, and lightning fast dual-clutch transmission. With tons of down-low torque it makes a most excellent daily driver and if you choose to chip it, will give your R8 V10 a run for the money at the drag strip. For a DD I can't think of another car I'd rather have (except maybe an S8).
09-11-2013, 01:53 PM
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I love the S6, as do most owners who value luxury and comfort above ultimate performance. It has all the stuff you like about your A6, but with much a more powerful motor, adjustable suspension, better braking, and lightning fast dual-clutch transmission. With tons of down-low torque it makes a most excellent daily driver and if you choose to chip it, will give your R8 V10 a run for the money at the drag strip. For a DD I can't think of another car I'd rather have (except maybe an S8).
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09-11-2013, 03:51 PM
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Have not posted much on here and was not able to find much searching for Pirelli or road noise as the title thread. I own a 2012 A6 3.0T Prestige w/ 19" Sport Pkg and also a 2012 R8 V10. Both have been fabulous cars thus far, though unfortunately I don't get enough chances to drive the R8 due to my work schedule (only 1800 miles on the ODO since taking delivery 6 months ago).
Well both of the cars have P-Zero tires. The A6 now has 17,500 miles, and over time the road noise and the ride comfort has taken a nose dive. I cannot say the same for the R8 since it only has 1800 miles on it, but I do not notice as much road noise in it as in the A6. I noticed the road noise in the A6 pretty early on, and unless I am driving on a newly paved road, there is a constant growl coming from the tires. It is terrible on rough sections of concrete, pavement with small cracks in it, etc. The ride comfort is also pretty poor over bumpy roads, or even the filler they use on cracks in the pavement. On a side note, I also have noticed the same thing on a few A4 loaners I drove while my A6 was in the shop for routine maintenance. I observed that they also had Pirelli tires, albeit a different model. So this makes two possibilities: either Pirelli tires pretty much suck across the board for road noise, or there is poor engineering on Audi's part in keeping road noise out.
My plan at this time is to replace the P-Zero tires, which still have over 50% tread, with either Hankook Ventus Noble S12 or Bridgestone RE970. I am hoping this will solve the problem or greatly help, but I would love to hear other members input on this. If you suffered from similar issues, how much did replacing with different tires help? Hope to get some replies! Thanks!
Well both of the cars have P-Zero tires. The A6 now has 17,500 miles, and over time the road noise and the ride comfort has taken a nose dive. I cannot say the same for the R8 since it only has 1800 miles on it, but I do not notice as much road noise in it as in the A6. I noticed the road noise in the A6 pretty early on, and unless I am driving on a newly paved road, there is a constant growl coming from the tires. It is terrible on rough sections of concrete, pavement with small cracks in it, etc. The ride comfort is also pretty poor over bumpy roads, or even the filler they use on cracks in the pavement. On a side note, I also have noticed the same thing on a few A4 loaners I drove while my A6 was in the shop for routine maintenance. I observed that they also had Pirelli tires, albeit a different model. So this makes two possibilities: either Pirelli tires pretty much suck across the board for road noise, or there is poor engineering on Audi's part in keeping road noise out.
My plan at this time is to replace the P-Zero tires, which still have over 50% tread, with either Hankook Ventus Noble S12 or Bridgestone RE970. I am hoping this will solve the problem or greatly help, but I would love to hear other members input on this. If you suffered from similar issues, how much did replacing with different tires help? Hope to get some replies! Thanks!
Just get different tires.
09-11-2013, 06:01 PM
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Many summer performance tires experience a significant degradation starting about 1/2 through the tire life. The way one friend puts it "For the first 12 thousand miles I love my car, then for the second 12 thousand I hate my car everyday and want to get rid of it. Then I replace my tires and fall in love with my car again."
Just get different tires.
Just get different tires.
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09-11-2013, 06:31 PM
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I think all summer tires take a dive when they get down to 4-5/32.
They all get noisier.
The problem with the pzero is the horrible noise up-front. Even with 1000 miles on them and 1 month of driving, they are loud loud loud.
What use to drive me nuts the most was the deceleration from 40-0 and lower speeds. They hum and whirl like crazy and almost made me hate driving my car.
They all get noisier.
The problem with the pzero is the horrible noise up-front. Even with 1000 miles on them and 1 month of driving, they are loud loud loud.
What use to drive me nuts the most was the deceleration from 40-0 and lower speeds. They hum and whirl like crazy and almost made me hate driving my car.
