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Old 07-23-2014, 06:50 PM
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I pick up my TDI this weekend.
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Originally Posted by NoahWeb
The 3.0T (supercharged) engine is the economical choice and saves money??

I could see an immediate purchase savings, but anything over ~30k miles...the TDI wins hands down. What maths did you use to reach this determination??
Can't speak for the person who posted it but probably better "maths" than you did

It really depends on where you live, how much you drive, etc. In my area diesel fuel is typically .30 to .40 cents a gallon higher than premium gas. Do the "maths" - and you will see that means you need to drive 75,000 miles or so to break even

Now if the price of fuel is the same that makes a difference - but it varies across the country so you can not make blanket statements like you did and be accurate
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Probably if you do the maths you will conclude that it is cheaper not to buy an Audi.

When buying a 50-60+k car I don't understand the logic of making decisions on how much you will spend on gas unless you are racking up excessive miles. Buy what best suits you and dont worry what others think.

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Can't speak for the person who posted it but probably better "maths" than you did

It really depends on where you live, how much you drive, etc. In my area diesel fuel is typically .30 to .40 cents a gallon higher than premium gas. Do the "maths" - and you will see that means you need to drive 75,000 miles or so to break even

Now if the price of fuel is the same that makes a difference - but it varies across the country so you can not make blanket statements like you did and be accurate
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Originally Posted by mike-nd
Probably if you do the maths you will conclude that it is cheaper not to buy an Audi.

When buying a 50-60+k car I don't understand the logic of making decisions on how much you will spend on gas unless you are racking up excessive miles. Buy what best suits you and dont worry what others think.
LOL, I agree with you completely Mike. I have always said I could care less about the difference in fuel economy. If I am spending $50K to $60K on a car, the minimal difference is nothing
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Originally Posted by Maverick61
In my area diesel fuel is typically .30 to .40 cents a gallon higher than premium gas. Do the "maths" - and you will see that means you need to drive 75,000 miles or so to break even
Drove past my local Exxon station this morning and diesel was $3.99 and Premium was $4.25 per gallon. So the diesel was actually cheaper.

The EPA combined MPG number for the 3.0T is 22MPG, or 19.3 cents per mile.

The EPA combined MPG number for the TDI is 29 MPG, or 13.7 cents per mile.

As a result, the TDI is 5.6 cents per mile less expensive to operate.

The 2015 TDI costs $2,400 more than a comparable 3.0T. With the fuel savings of 5.6 cents per mile, the additional cost of the 2015 TDI will be recovered in 42,857 miles. The 2014 TDI has an additional Audi incentive of $1,500 over and above what was offered on the 3.0T, bringing the price difference down to $900. As a result of the smaller delta, with the fuel savings of 5.6 cents per mile the additional cost of the 2014 TDI will be recovered in 16,071 miles.

I also just checked Edmunds and when comparing two identically equipped 2014 Premium Plus A6 cars, one with the 3.0T and the other with the TDI, the trade in value on the TDI is $2,686 higher, which is even more than the additional cost when upgrading to the 2014 TDI. As a result, you really recover the additional cost of the TDI as soon as you buy the car. In fact, you make nearly $1,800 when they hand you the keys to a 2014 TDI.

So if you have the finances to spend a few extra bucks up front, you can get better acceleration to 60, faster time in the quarter mile, and help the environment. So it is a winner for everyone involved.

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Originally Posted by KevinGary
Drove past my local Exxon station this morning and diesel was $3.99 and Premium was $4.25 per gallon. So the diesel was actually cheaper.

The EPA combined MPG number for the 3.0T is 22MPG, or 19.3 cents per mile.

The EPA combined MPG number for the TDI is 29 MPG, or 13.7 cents per mile.

As a result, the TDI is 5.6 cents per mile less expensive to operate.

The 2015 TDI costs $2,400 more than a comparable 3.0T. With the fuel savings of 5.6 cents per mile, the additional cost of the 2015 TDI will be recovered in 42,857 miles. The 2014 TDI has an additional Audi incentive of $1,500 over and above what was offered on the 3.0T, bringing the price difference down to $900. As a result of the smaller delta, with the fuel savings of 5.6 cents per mile the additional cost of the 2014 TDI will be recovered in 16,071 miles.

I also just checked Edmunds and when comparing two identically equipped 2014 Premium Plus A6 cars, one with the 3.0T and the other with the TDI, the trade in value on the TDI is $2,686 higher, which is even more than the additional cost when upgrading to the 2014 TDI. As a result, you really recover the additional cost of the TDI as soon as you buy the car. In fact, you make nearly $1,800 when they hand you the keys.

So if you have the finances to spend a few extra bucks up front, you can get better acceleration to 60, faster time in the quarter mile, and help the environment. So it is a winner for everyone involved.
Good post.

Diesel has been between $3.55 and $3.79 here. Still a good savings over premium fuel and with fewer fills ups.

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Originally Posted by KevinGary
Drove past my local Exxon station this morning and diesel was $3.99 and Premium was $4.25 per gallon. So the diesel was actually cheaper.
So what part of IN MY AREA did you not understand?


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So if you have the finances to spend a few extra bucks up front, you can get better acceleration to 60, faster time in the quarter mile, and help the environment. So it is a winner for everyone involved.
Ahh the defensiveness and delusions of SOME TDI owners continue (although I do appreciate those honest and straightforward TDI owners who have posted)

Like I said before, it is nice Audi gives us choices so people can pick what is right for them.

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Originally Posted by KevinGary
Drove past my local Exxon station this morning and diesel was $3.99 and Premium was $4.25 per gallon. So the diesel was actually cheaper.

The EPA combined MPG number for the 3.0T is 22MPG, or 19.3 cents per mile.

The EPA combined MPG number for the TDI is 29 MPG, or 13.7 cents per mile.

As a result, the TDI is 5.6 cents per mile less expensive to operate.

The 2015 TD **SNIP SNIP** involved.
No argument here; my actual cost per mile is .09 while my Wife's GMC Acadia runs at .25/mile (el sucko!).
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Originally Posted by NoahWeb
No argument here; my actual cost per mile is .09 while my Wife's GMC Acadia runs at .25/mile (el sucko!).
Thanks, it is rather tough to successfully argue against math.


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