ACC Mode?
#11
AudiWorld Senior Member
You can set the default distance preference closer in VCDS and change between dynamic, auto and comfort in individual (not sure what exactly the difference is on this setting). Would that be sufficient? If someone's going to fill the gap right in front of you, you should brake if they're in the zone where the closest would slow you down anyway. Why not just leave it on close and when someone does seem like they're going to come in brake such that cruise turns off?
#12
AudiWorld Super User
Stoneybroke. Since Audi cars with ACC do have rear sensors, I do think the car will react to the understanding that there is a car behind you and split the difference. That said, unless you intentionally slam on the brakes for no reason, the person year ending will be liable. It is your responsibility to be able to stop without hitting the car ahead.
If the system calculates a high probalility of a rear end collision, it will respond by tightening the seatbelts, closing the windows and sunroof, adjusting the front and rear seats, power head restraints, upper section back rests, and side bolsters.
As to rear end collision liability, you are correct, it's the driver's responsibility to be able to stop in time to avoid colliding with another vehicle. Where liability can get complicated is if a car #2 behind car #1 is hit by car #3 behind #2 and pushes #2 into car #1. Car #3 is usually responsible for damage done to both #1 and #2 but not always. There can be mitigating factors such as black ice, car #2 following too close to car #1 when hit by car #3, etc. Insurance companies have to sort out those situations. Believe me, I know.
#13
AudiWorld Super User
I originally felt as you do...and then I drove our new A6 and found that practice deviates from theory. I wrote this before in another thread, so pardon the repetition for those who already read this comment. While driving on I80 in Ohio in ACC mode, someone filled in the gap in front of me closer than would be ideal. An experienced driver would quickly glance in the rearview, back off the throttle to re-establish a reasonable following distance, braking only if/when necessary. However, in this scenario, our A6 ACC system dove onto the brakes and I almost had the car behind me in our trunk. Perhaps there is a way to fine-tune this without being in the stiffer Sport mode, but in a car where we can't get the radio to hold its volume, this seems to be another example where the technology is underdeveloped for its purpose. We love the chassis, powertrain, interior, design, etc., but I will avoid ACC, which unfortunately means also not even having basic cruise control, unless someone has alternative advice on how to manage this behavior. I don't want to lose the basic automatic braking for usual traffic, but the severity of the ACC response is troubling.
So, let's get to the situation at hand. The way I deal with this is simple. When somebody is cutting in front of me, I simply push forward on the stalk to cancel ACC. Not all the way, just the first position. Then I fall back and pull on the stalk to resume. Ultimately as the driver I'm still responsible and sometimes that means manual intervention. Never did I wish I could revert ACC to regular cruise control, though. ACC for me has made such a difference in mundane driving situations and I'm no longer fatigue on long drives or get frustrated in slow traffic.
Last edited by superswiss; 03-21-2016 at 08:52 AM.
#14
AudiWorld Senior Member
I'm with you superswiss. I definitely don't want to be tailgating people, and as good as the S6 brakes are, I still have to react. It takes about 1 second to react and depress the brake, which is just over 100 feet at 70 MPH.
#15
At least in a 2012 A6, I can state categorically that if one of your front parking sensors fail, you will lose ACC and Brake Guard, the system does not revert to regular cruise control.
I had a sensor fail a few weeks ago with ACC engaged. When that happened, cruise control disengaged, and I received a DIS message that said essentially ACC and Braking Guard not available. No indication of the problem, just a statement of systems that weren't working.
I brought the car to the dealer, they replaced the left front parking sensor and all is good again.
I had a sensor fail a few weeks ago with ACC engaged. When that happened, cruise control disengaged, and I received a DIS message that said essentially ACC and Braking Guard not available. No indication of the problem, just a statement of systems that weren't working.
I brought the car to the dealer, they replaced the left front parking sensor and all is good again.
#17
AudiWorld Senior Member
Say what you like, but ACC and emergency braking saves lives, and if it comes to it, pre-sense rear will help you. It's a good idea to use VCDS to enable emergency adaptive braking lights. If you're being tailgated, deal with it to be sure they don't tailgate anymore so that you're safe in the event someone fills the gap. If you have someone appearing to pull ahead of you so closely that even on the shortest ACC setting it wants to quickly brake, you are not fast enough to react such that if something happens where they dramatically slow, you WILL hit the person.
Option 1 you have a capable car that can get ahead if room. Option 2, you can gently activate the rear lights without slamming on the brakes such that the person behind you realizes they need to back away. Option 3, slow down gradually sufficiently that the other person will go around.
Option 1 you have a capable car that can get ahead if room. Option 2, you can gently activate the rear lights without slamming on the brakes such that the person behind you realizes they need to back away. Option 3, slow down gradually sufficiently that the other person will go around.
Last edited by schalliol; 03-22-2016 at 05:56 PM.
#18
Perhaps you, an experienced driver, would back off the throttle AND gently step on the brake and thus quickly disable the ACC.
#19
AudiWorld Senior Member
I have to tell myself not to press the brake to disable the ACC in such circumstances if I want ACC it to do its job, but my foot is always right there and ready if necessary. With cruise (adaptive or not) on, if someone fills the gap closely, I'm always braking because I know it isn't safe to tailgate
#20
AudiWorld Super User
When you are driving with ACC and a car is about to cut in front of you then your interpretation of impending events is way sooner than any recognition by the ACC. ACC won't see the car until it's too late so your human intervention is warranted, as previously mentioned, it's to assist you, not instead of you.