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Well it's mostly because weight is transfered back

Posted by: dingster on 2002-04-06 20:31:33
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In Reply to: It would help........ posted by markbradford on 2002-04-06 20:28:31

Front tires has less traction due to less force excerted on them. I'm not saying it won't help but getting the suspension and alignment setup is more important. If you feel you have got all that taken care of it certainly won't hurt to get this diff.

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Hair's breadth from pulling the trigger on the Stasis diff mod - engineer types please comment..... - markbradford 2002-04-06 18:24:49 (1323 views)

Ok, here's my comments (long!).... - Corey S 2002-04-08 13:00:18 (554 views)

that is one of the most amazing posts I've ever read......nice work...... - djnelsen 2002-04-08 21:33:20 (206 views)

Dan - you woulnd't notice it except when powering HARD out of turns and the car pushes.... - markbradford 2002-04-08 21:45:58 (191 views)

Thanks.......any thoughts on the supposedly-fatigue-susceptible Bilsteins? - djnelsen 2002-04-08 22:11:14 (120 views)

Bilsteins are actually one of the longest lasting shocks out there - dingster 2002-04-08 22:19:02 (167 views)

Mine have been solid, and I haven't heard that rep before. Time will tell I guess. - markbradford 2002-04-08 22:16:44 (125 views)

How many miles on 'em?....Dope sig, by the way...one of the more creative I've seen. - djnelsen 2002-04-08 22:34:27 (109 views)

So far prolly only about 3000 miles or so. - markbradford 2002-04-09 06:12:41 (95 views)

Finally an opinon I can trust. Thanks Corey! - markbradford 2002-04-08 14:36:22 (99 views)

What are you running for suspension? Just curious - DustysA4 2002-04-08 15:04:35 (81 views)

Neuspeed adjustable perch Bilsteins and Vortrag Hyperco 450F/500R springs. - markbradford 2002-04-08 15:35:58 (137 views)

Hehehe. Sorry, we were at Thunderhill all weekend. :-) - Corey S 2002-04-08 15:03:29 (80 views)

Mark, here is a Torsen white paper... - Kirk 2002-04-07 06:19:51 (245 views)

nice, i cant find it on thier site anywhere tho :( - CharlieGSanD 2002-04-06 20:46:24 (140 views)

It's not on their site...that's an excerpt from an email Sonja sent me at Stasis - James R. 2002-04-06 23:53:35 (132 views)

In principle, it's in the right direction, but ... - ryoung 2002-04-06 20:04:18 (519 views)

good points....but let's remember that you're in an S8, right?....... - djnelsen 2002-04-07 00:37:18 (153 views)

Also a front engined, nose heavy awd vehicle - dingster 2002-04-07 08:44:50 (188 views)

Corner exit? ... - ryoung 2002-04-07 09:41:46 (169 views)

Here are some of Sharon and CoreyS's S4 - dingster 2002-04-07 11:37:18 (294 views)

i like that hood :) - CharlieGSanD 2002-04-07 12:19:45 (169 views)

You said rad. - markbradford 2002-04-07 03:18:19 (90 views)

Wouldn't the fact that you're not losing traction in the rear, despite having only one wheel... - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:14:17 (186 views)

Well ... - ryoung 2002-04-06 20:25:48 (173 views)

It would help........ - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:28:31 (149 views)

I'm not sure ... - ryoung 2002-04-06 20:36:44 (140 views)

If you're on the throttle and the car is pushing, the the Torsen would send more to the rear. - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:38:10 (101 views)

Well it's mostly because weight is transfered back - dingster 2002-04-06 20:31:33 (130 views)

Well here's the thing...... - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:34:43 (154 views)

putting power down to the ground wont be an issue. its just a matter of GOING IN hotter into a turn - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:38:03 (101 views)

I want to be able to steer with the throttle more. - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:42:49 (96 views)

like a rear wheel drive you mean? well, dont forget you have quattro - you drift - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:47:20 (158 views)

Yes, but I'd like to be able to induce rotation solely with the right pedal. - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:49:24 (140 views)

Well let's not ignore one simple fact, this IS the same ratio the RS4 uses - James R. 2002-04-06 21:15:47 (152 views)

missed my setup with the k04 =) it can loose traction on the rear giving you atleast 2 tail swings - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 21:08:19 (130 views)

This can get very dicey ... - ryoung 2002-04-06 21:02:58 (148 views)

Re: Yes, but I'd like to be able to induce rotation solely with the right pedal. - dingster 2002-04-06 20:57:23 (152 views)

Well - dingster 2002-04-06 20:55:47 (128 views)

umm your pic and your sig has the same 'wheel lift' - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:11:02 (99 views)

I'll get the same result from installing an S4 6 speed, right? ;-) - UROTRASH 2002-04-06 19:31:12 (122 views)

This is a CENTER diff mod, not a tranny mod. Adjusts fore-aft torque bias. - markbradford 2002-04-06 19:49:24 (121 views)

drooll..... - djnelsen 2002-04-06 18:52:59 (108 views)

Spend that money on better suspension first. More bang for the buck. - dingster 2002-04-06 18:37:52 (192 views)

Dan, what's your feeling on the impacts in street driving in the real world? - yippers 2002-04-06 19:33:18 (93 views)

I don't think it makes a differece til traction reaches 9/10ths - dingster 2002-04-06 19:36:19 (122 views)

But at the track you're 9.9/10 all the time. - markbradford 2002-04-06 19:47:43 (112 views)

I was thinking in limited traction situations .. i.e., snow or fresh rain on oil slick roads. More - yippers 2002-04-06 19:40:32 (129 views)

It might help or it might hurt. I dunno. - dingster 2002-04-06 19:46:38 (109 views)

Understood that. I was thinking it might be less forgiving on the road so I was curious if that was - yippers 2002-04-06 19:49:06 (97 views)

It's possible that the mod reduces the diff's ability to send power to the front. - markbradford 2002-04-06 19:53:01 (123 views)

I thought I saw max split on our system is 25/75 - dingster 2002-04-06 19:54:28 (98 views)

65/35 - markbradford 2002-04-06 19:57:22 (85 views)

Mininum split for this type of system is 2.5:1. I know the stock max bias is 25/75 - dingster 2002-04-06 20:03:53 (112 views)

Here is an interesting discussion on the Torsen. Says it is 75/25 but do to frictional losses closer - yippers 2002-04-06 20:15:22 (118 views)

2:1 is stock. 4:1 is Stasis. - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:05:06 (96 views)

Ditto ... both front/rear and left/right IIRC - yippers 2002-04-06 19:55:50 (76 views)

"Suspension, alighment, tires will make more of a difference. " CHECK! - markbradford 2002-04-06 19:31:34 (179 views)

I'm talking about real alignment, susp, tires =P - dingster 2002-04-06 19:33:36 (117 views)

Well - race tires will cost me twelve points in my local VW/Audi club classifications.... - markbradford 2002-04-06 19:46:28 (152 views)

Call stasis...with the VM3 valving you can run 1200 lbs of spring rate - James R. 2002-04-06 19:58:28 (149 views)

I like what I have now. - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:00:44 (113 views)

Well he does have the glorious Hypercoil/Blilstein setup... - SameerP 2002-04-06 19:30:26 (154 views)

No offense but Bilstein sucks IMHO. WYSIWYG swapped out that combo after 1 autoX - dingster 2002-04-06 19:34:49 (177 views)

Are you sure his struts weren't blown or sum'n? There are about 10 peoplein the area here....... - markbradford 2002-04-06 19:43:48 (145 views)

it doesnt recover quickly enough after hard braking and we're not talking about big brakes here. - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:00:52 (105 views)

did it pogo on you or just refuse to rise after diving? - yippers 2002-04-06 20:17:01 (82 views)

just slow, no pogo - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:21:07 (93 views)

Unless the shocks were over damped on rebound wouldn't that be more a function of springs that were - yippers 2002-04-06 20:23:39 (111 views)

well, its a system. think about the REARs reaction to a dive, it has to come back too - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:40:59 (87 views)

More on the bilstien/vortrag fixed height kit.. - Nick N 2002-04-07 21:53:59 (150 views)

to reword what probably were both saying: the bils is NOT a good combo for the vortrag springs - WYSIWYG 2002-04-07 22:06:24 (105 views)

Yeah if ppl want the best perfomance, koni's will dampen better at the limits... - Nick N 2002-04-07 22:24:28 (117 views)

What springs are you running? - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:04:10 (87 views)

was vortrag hypercos. now with ultras - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:08:13 (104 views)

you guys WOULD have this argument SEVEN DAMN DAYS before my suspension goes in :( - �OOSTD� 2002-04-06 20:14:49 (105 views)

Chris, its really not that bad. i dont think there are many chances one will need to 70-15mph and - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:20:01 (134 views)

well the difference is I'll be 2nd-guessing the shock decision. - �OOSTD� 2002-04-06 20:32:12 (148 views)

Don't worry Chris. They're very nice for aggressive street driving - dingster 2002-04-06 21:01:27 (106 views)

don't worry chris... you will be so thrilled you will forget all about it... - skabaru 2002-04-06 20:58:20 (94 views)

and you are right, you are going to need height adjustability with the hypercos - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:35:40 (78 views)

And the fact that the c/o's don't eliminate understeer doesn't bother you as much as the Bils? - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:11:12 (114 views)

what are you talking about? *YOU* correct understeer - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:16:38 (102 views)

Huh? I'm talking about the balance of the car. - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:19:53 (108 views)

just wanted to point out the you cant use the same formula to estimate the performance of springs - WYSIWYG 2002-04-07 09:10:55 (97 views)

what i meant is understeer can be corrected on the fly. currently the 19mm is out of the car - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:26:18 (118 views)

Depends on how it's setup and driven - dingster 2002-04-06 20:22:43 (99 views)

Yeah - hell you can get a stock Honda Civic to kick the tail out..... - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:25:14 (106 views)

Like I said, setup and driving - dingster 2002-04-06 20:28:24 (109 views)

"Grossly feeding steering input even with throttle lift won't make the car oversteer" ??? - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:32:11 (132 views)

=) try that on an OE A4 - WYSIWYG 2002-04-06 20:43:48 (85 views)

whatever you say - dingster 2002-04-06 20:35:33 (108 views)

Who said anything about understeering? - markbradford 2002-04-06 20:40:33 (146 views)

you were implying the Honda has a tendency to understeer - dingster 2002-04-06 20:46:17 (111 views)

They were fine. Not enough low speed damping IMHO - dingster 2002-04-06 19:49:48 (119 views)

That is why I prefer the single tubes on the street. Limits the jiggles you tend to get with the - yippers 2002-04-06 19:52:38 (113 views)

been thinking about that myself - �OOSTD� 2002-04-06 18:37:38 (95 views)

dont do it - mik� |�.8�q| 2002-04-06 18:32:31 (196 views)

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