synthetic oil choices
06-02-2013, 08:50 PM
#2
This viscosity is not as important as the additive package in the oil. Not all oils are created the same, even from the same blender or manufacturer. Ambient temperature should be considered when selecting a viscosity range.
You must use oils that are specified to meet VW502.00 for gasoline engines. You risk serious damage if not using the specified oil.
You should avoid boutique oils like Royal Purple and Amsoil unless they state on the container they meet the specification.
The only way to know if your oil is performing is to have a mass spectrometer analyze it. The color, odor, & taste tells you nothing. Changing oil early is just a waste of time and money, because the only way to enjoy "peace of mind" is to get a test run at Blackstone Labs or similar testing company.
VW publishes a list of oils meeting the specification. Not all oils are readily available in every country, but you should pick one from the list.
You must use oils that are specified to meet VW502.00 for gasoline engines. You risk serious damage if not using the specified oil.
You should avoid boutique oils like Royal Purple and Amsoil unless they state on the container they meet the specification.
The only way to know if your oil is performing is to have a mass spectrometer analyze it. The color, odor, & taste tells you nothing. Changing oil early is just a waste of time and money, because the only way to enjoy "peace of mind" is to get a test run at Blackstone Labs or similar testing company.
VW publishes a list of oils meeting the specification. Not all oils are readily available in every country, but you should pick one from the list.
Last edited by Moviela; 06-04-2013 at 01:40 AM.
06-03-2013, 07:00 AM
#4
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for USA mkt:
VAG spec 502.00
06-03-2013, 07:53 AM
#5
AudiWorld Senior Member
Yup, 502 for gasoline engines.
To further clarify:
Volkswagen Motor Oil Specifications
VW 500.00
Volkswagen specification for multigrade engine oils for gasoline engines with SAE 5W-X/10W-X viscosity. This is an "old" oil specification and is applicable to engines built before model year 2000 (up to August 1999). Oils with an approval made post March 1997 were given an alternative, later VW specification.
VW 501.01
Conventional motor oils suitable for some VW engines built before MY 2000. This is an “old” oil specification and is applicable to engines built before model year 2000 (up to August 1999). Oils with an approval made post March 1997 were given an alternative, later VW specification.
VW 502.00
Oil for gasoline engines. Successor of VW 501.01 and VW 500.00 specification. Recommended for those which are subject to arduous conditions. It must not be used for any engines with variable service intervals or any which are referred to under other specifications.
VW 503.00
Long-life gasoline engine oil for VW cars with WIV (system for longer service intervals). Also meets ACEA A1, SAE 0W-30 or 5W-30 specification.
VW 503.01
This specification is specifically for Audi RS4, Audi TT, S3 and Audi A8 6.0 V12 models with outputs of more than 180bhp, running with variable service intervals (30,000km or 2 years). Now superceeded by the VW 504.00 specification.
VW 504.00
The VW 504 00 specification superceedes the VW 503 00 and VW 503.01 specifications. VW 504 00 oils are suitable for engines meeting the demands of Euro IV emissions standards.
VW 505.00
Passenger car diesel engine oil specification, minimum performance level CCMC PD-2. Lists viscosities SAE 5W-50, 10W-50/60, 15W-40/50, 20W-40/50 requiring 13% max. evaporation loss and SAE 5W-30/40, 10W-30/40 requiring 15% max. evaporation loss.
VW 505.01
Special engine oil for VW turbodiesel engines with pump-injector-unit and for the V8 Commonrail turbodiesel engines. Meets ACEA B4 SAE 5W-40 specification.
VW 506.00
These oils are suitable for diesel engines with extended service intervals of up to 50,000km / 2 years. Not for use on engines with a single injector pump. Oil change is indicated by the electronic service indicator. Viscosity is SAE 0W30.
VW 506.01
These oils are especially for "Pumpe-Düse" (unit injector or "PD" engines) running on extended service intervals (30,000 - 50,000km / 24 months). Oil change is indicated by the electronic service indicator.
VW 507.00
Low SAPS oils suitable for Euro 4 engines and almost all VAG diesel engines from 2000 onwards with extended service intervals, unitary injector pumps and also Pumpe-Düse ("PD") engines. Excludes V10, R5 engines and VW Commercial vehicles without fitted DPF (diesel particulate filters) – these must use a 506 01 specification oil.
VW 508.00
This standard is not yet released. It will probably require a low SAPS oil with energy conserving properties.
To further clarify:
Volkswagen Motor Oil Specifications
VW 500.00
Volkswagen specification for multigrade engine oils for gasoline engines with SAE 5W-X/10W-X viscosity. This is an "old" oil specification and is applicable to engines built before model year 2000 (up to August 1999). Oils with an approval made post March 1997 were given an alternative, later VW specification.
VW 501.01
Conventional motor oils suitable for some VW engines built before MY 2000. This is an “old” oil specification and is applicable to engines built before model year 2000 (up to August 1999). Oils with an approval made post March 1997 were given an alternative, later VW specification.
VW 502.00
Oil for gasoline engines. Successor of VW 501.01 and VW 500.00 specification. Recommended for those which are subject to arduous conditions. It must not be used for any engines with variable service intervals or any which are referred to under other specifications.
VW 503.00
Long-life gasoline engine oil for VW cars with WIV (system for longer service intervals). Also meets ACEA A1, SAE 0W-30 or 5W-30 specification.
VW 503.01
This specification is specifically for Audi RS4, Audi TT, S3 and Audi A8 6.0 V12 models with outputs of more than 180bhp, running with variable service intervals (30,000km or 2 years). Now superceeded by the VW 504.00 specification.
VW 504.00
The VW 504 00 specification superceedes the VW 503 00 and VW 503.01 specifications. VW 504 00 oils are suitable for engines meeting the demands of Euro IV emissions standards.
VW 505.00
Passenger car diesel engine oil specification, minimum performance level CCMC PD-2. Lists viscosities SAE 5W-50, 10W-50/60, 15W-40/50, 20W-40/50 requiring 13% max. evaporation loss and SAE 5W-30/40, 10W-30/40 requiring 15% max. evaporation loss.
VW 505.01
Special engine oil for VW turbodiesel engines with pump-injector-unit and for the V8 Commonrail turbodiesel engines. Meets ACEA B4 SAE 5W-40 specification.
VW 506.00
These oils are suitable for diesel engines with extended service intervals of up to 50,000km / 2 years. Not for use on engines with a single injector pump. Oil change is indicated by the electronic service indicator. Viscosity is SAE 0W30.
VW 506.01
These oils are especially for "Pumpe-Düse" (unit injector or "PD" engines) running on extended service intervals (30,000 - 50,000km / 24 months). Oil change is indicated by the electronic service indicator.
VW 507.00
Low SAPS oils suitable for Euro 4 engines and almost all VAG diesel engines from 2000 onwards with extended service intervals, unitary injector pumps and also Pumpe-Düse ("PD") engines. Excludes V10, R5 engines and VW Commercial vehicles without fitted DPF (diesel particulate filters) – these must use a 506 01 specification oil.
VW 508.00
This standard is not yet released. It will probably require a low SAPS oil with energy conserving properties.
06-03-2013, 09:04 AM
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I've been using Mobil1 0W-40, FS which is a 502 oil for the last 2 years.
Saw some posts where someone claimed switching from Mobil 1 back to Castrol reduced their oil burn.
Saw some posts where someone claimed switching from Mobil 1 back to Castrol reduced their oil burn.
06-03-2013, 03:13 PM
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My dealer said they use Castrol Edge full syn 5W-40
Castrol -US site search ...
Thank you for inquiring about what oil is best for your vehicle. Based on the information you provided, your vehicle requires a special engine oil that can only be purchased at your local dealer. Please visit your local dealer to ensure that your vehicle is serviced properly.
Castrol EDGE with SPT, SAE 5W-40
SEO 5W-40
Castrol -US site search ...
Thank you for inquiring about what oil is best for your vehicle. Based on the information you provided, your vehicle requires a special engine oil that can only be purchased at your local dealer. Please visit your local dealer to ensure that your vehicle is serviced properly.
Castrol EDGE with SPT, SAE 5W-40
SEO 5W-40
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06-03-2013, 04:02 PM
#9
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The dealer where I bought my car said to use 0W-40.
The manual for my car says 5W40, 5W30, 0W40 are all acceptable, as long as they meet the VW502 spec.
Mobil1 0W-40 lists the BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Chrysler, and Porsche specs.
The manual for my car says 5W40, 5W30, 0W40 are all acceptable, as long as they meet the VW502 spec.
Mobil1 0W-40 lists the BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Chrysler, and Porsche specs.
06-03-2013, 04:15 PM
#10
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Ports, the Mobil 1 0W40 is going to be the easiest to track down. W*mart now sells a 5 qt jug for either $22 or $26 depending upon location. It's a top-notch, compliant oil.
Autozone probably has the Castrol 5W40 if that's what you're after. They also used to carry Castrol 0W30 which is also compliant.
Autozone probably has the Castrol 5W40 if that's what you're after. They also used to carry Castrol 0W30 which is also compliant.