Audi A4 2003 Frontrak B6 CVT Multitronic Oil/Fluid change/flush
#11
Audiworld Junior Member
Thread Starter
Also if your looking to make a tool to fill, I find the way your doing it hideously slow. Order a replacement drain plug, drill a hole in it, and weld a nipple onto it and then you can just thread the plug in and put a hose on it and fill. I use a cheap fuel pump to pump the fluid in. You overfill slightly, then start the engine, remove the fitting and drain off the excess, then put your original plug back in. You guys need to be doing fluid services every 30k. Not waiting until its acting like hell and then try double flushing it. your just wearing the trans out running the same fluid so long.
#12
AudiWorld Super User
By the time you weld a custom fill plug, and make your fuel pump contraption Ill be done filling the trans. The harbor freight pump I used works fast, five quick pumps per bottle. No more than a couple minutes to fill it up far from "hideously slow" . I stated that it needs to be done at least every 30k in my write up as well.
You must have got one hell of a hand pump, most hand pumps iv used take like dozens and dozens of pumps before a quart bottle is empty and its brutal on your arm.
Also i find the name Audi gave this model hilarious. Frontrack.....lol we know its not quattro but we have to give it some kind of cool name relating to how well it still does tracion wise..
#13
Awesome
Thankyou for the write up I've looked everywhere for a straight forward easy write up. Yes sir you have succeeded in just that. I'm not sure why there are so many people trolling tho, it sucks to see all these negative individuals. Anyways thanks I will be doing mine this weekend and will check back in and let you know how it went.
#14
Excellent
Well I went ahead and did a Double Flush this weekend, one fluid change Saturday morning and one Sunday morning after driving around about 40 miles after the first. The transmission feels great and I'm really happy with the double flush method. I've had audi service it twice once at 40k and once at 60k both times 260 bucks. I bought 9 qty of ENEOS CVT QT Synthetic fluid on amazon and it was less then half. Thanks again me and my a4 b7 2.0t Apr stage 2+ water meth injected thank you sir.
#15
AudiWorld Member
Great write up and Pics. I've read a number of these to prepare for the job. Theres another good one here,
http://www.furitech.com.au/index.php...-fluid-change/
I note this author recommends moving the wheels in forward and reverse to get the fluid level just right, draining excess or topping up as appropriate with the engine running. I'm concerned about the car nor being flat when the level check is performed, as the filler is basically an extended tube into the box, which overflows when the correct level is reached. if the box is tilted, the level at overflow could be very different to the level when the car is flat. Another author of this procedure even goes as far as using a spirit level to ensure the box is flat. I'm jacking all four wheels to be on the safe side. I also like the reference to "friction modifier" additives, sound like an inexpensive way of getting rid of problems without mechanical intervention. I note also that the clutch can be calibrated, using VCDS I presume, but I wouldn't know anything about that. If someone does, please post.
http://www.furitech.com.au/index.php...-fluid-change/
I note this author recommends moving the wheels in forward and reverse to get the fluid level just right, draining excess or topping up as appropriate with the engine running. I'm concerned about the car nor being flat when the level check is performed, as the filler is basically an extended tube into the box, which overflows when the correct level is reached. if the box is tilted, the level at overflow could be very different to the level when the car is flat. Another author of this procedure even goes as far as using a spirit level to ensure the box is flat. I'm jacking all four wheels to be on the safe side. I also like the reference to "friction modifier" additives, sound like an inexpensive way of getting rid of problems without mechanical intervention. I note also that the clutch can be calibrated, using VCDS I presume, but I wouldn't know anything about that. If someone does, please post.
#16
AudiWorld Member
Further to the above, I found this.
http://www.esatinc.ca/VW_Audi_Docume...structions.pdf
Two part procedure for adaptation, The first driving with the wheels off the ground, the second on the road with VCDS attached, and scanning the TCM, the transmission control module. It's starting to get complex.
http://www.esatinc.ca/VW_Audi_Docume...structions.pdf
Two part procedure for adaptation, The first driving with the wheels off the ground, the second on the road with VCDS attached, and scanning the TCM, the transmission control module. It's starting to get complex.
#17
AudiWorld Member
Thanks for this informative and useful post
I have an A4 B6 2.4 L V6 with similar jerking and flashing panel and loss of drive problems .
What a P/poor effort by Audi. This pulls the whole series reliability to shreds. They will get no more recommendations from me.
To the box . I was not even able to ascertain where the filler was despite a fortnights research looking for workshop manuals and gearbox diagrams and 50 years experience of DIY repairs to all sorts of cars. The only useful stuff was here , and on the Continuously Variable Transmission page of the wikis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contin...e_transmission
and see later posts for pictures
I now see where to go and will post a few photos here myself for future lookers. There is a mention on one post I read that the pan can be dropped and the screen filter inside cleaned or changed (but not on my model). I'll try to add more as I find it . There was talk of an inline filter in one of the oil lines . I have not found one yet if there is one and that may have been on the 1.6L engine only.(This is not on mine either)
I have bought one of these cheap USB and laptop programs and interface but I have not got that working yet either. Worked once and then the program crashed in Windows Vista and won't come back at this stage .Possibly a configuration issue.(See later its how you set it up)
I have an A4 B6 2.4 L V6 with similar jerking and flashing panel and loss of drive problems .
What a P/poor effort by Audi. This pulls the whole series reliability to shreds. They will get no more recommendations from me.
To the box . I was not even able to ascertain where the filler was despite a fortnights research looking for workshop manuals and gearbox diagrams and 50 years experience of DIY repairs to all sorts of cars. The only useful stuff was here , and on the Continuously Variable Transmission page of the wikis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contin...e_transmission
and see later posts for pictures
I now see where to go and will post a few photos here myself for future lookers. There is a mention on one post I read that the pan can be dropped and the screen filter inside cleaned or changed (but not on my model). I'll try to add more as I find it . There was talk of an inline filter in one of the oil lines . I have not found one yet if there is one and that may have been on the 1.6L engine only.(This is not on mine either)
I have bought one of these cheap USB and laptop programs and interface but I have not got that working yet either. Worked once and then the program crashed in Windows Vista and won't come back at this stage .Possibly a configuration issue.(See later its how you set it up)
Last edited by tytower; 07-28-2014 at 02:23 AM.
#18
AudiWorld Member
Also if your looking to make a tool to fill, I find the way your doing it hideously slow. Order a replacement drain plug, drill a hole in it, and weld a nipple onto it and then you can just thread the plug in and put a hose on it and fill. I use a cheap fuel pump to pump the fluid in. You overfill slightly, then start the engine, remove the fitting and drain off the excess, then put your original plug back in. You guys need to be doing fluid services every 30k. Not waiting until its acting like hell and then try double flushing it. your just wearing the trans out running the same fluid so long.
Just a half of the screw to hold up the plasic covers is $7.98 AUD each and I need about 12 of them with the backing receivers /lock tabs $150 all up
Last edited by tytower; 07-28-2014 at 02:22 AM.
#20
AudiWorld Super User
i dont think basing an entire line of cars or company's reliability or durability off one somewhat uncommon transmission on a 2wd Audi (yuk) Is very fair. Name ONE car company with a reliable CVT transmission. There isnt one. And Most of the issues after the updated transmissions are installed is from absolutely no maintenance on the part of the owners. Did you service it every 30k? I doubt it.