sb_gli

I recently purchased a 2003 allroad that was throwing codes for the egt sensors. I searched around a bit and found that some people have been able to successfully repair their egt sensors by resoldering the 5 solder points inside of the sensor. While this seems to have worked well for one of my sensors, it did not work for the other. I still received the following code, immediately after clearing it:

17861 - Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 1 (G235)
P1453 - 35-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

So, I figured I was going to have to fork over the $250 to buy a new EGT sensor, which by reports, would probably have a similar fate a couple years down the road. Instead, I did a little searching and found a thread where a guy replaced the circuit board (pcb) of the egt. The intent was so he could have a real time reading of his egts in cabin. I'm not going for real time readouts here, but just want to fix my egt sensor, and slap my car out of limp mode. So, with a little more searching, I found a guy in Poland who makes a replacement boards for these egt sensors. I was able to contact him through email, sent a paypal for $45, and received the new egt pcb in the mail a week later. Great service, fast shipping, and a cheap price for what I hope is a permanent solution.

Time for a mini DIY:

First, it's best to remove the senor from the car completely. For the driver's side, it might be better to get do this all with the probe attached to the exhaust, since it's a real bugger to remove.

Open the box of EGT sensor. There's a bunch of slimy silicone that was used to protect the board. Remove all of this junk. I used a toothbrush to remove what I could.
Once you've removed as much crap as you can, you'll need to remove the circuit board from the box completely. You can use a solder gun to melt the solder and remove each leg one by one.

After the pcb has been removed, get the rest of the box as clean as possible. I used some engine cleaner and let it sit for a few minutes to break down the rest of the silicone. I then blasted the box with compressed air to remove most of the remaining junk, followed by a light wash down with brake parts cleaner. I then cleaned up the leads as best as I could to remove any extra solder. I mostly needed to do this because I attempted to fix the unit by resoldering the legs first.

Here's what the box looked like before soldering the new board in:




Next, solder in the new board. This is pretty easy, just make the wires find there way home in the middle of the leads.

Use something to secure the board to the box, double sided tape, dab of rtv, whatever. I used rtv silicone to seal the box shut again, and held it together for an hour or so with a clamp, and reinstalled. Note: I did not encase the pcb with silicone like it was from the factory.

I started up the car, cleared the codes, and to my pleasure, the codes did not return!!!! SUCCESS!!! WOOHOO!! I also took some logs with vagcom, and where the ECU was only ever requesting 6-7lbs of boost before with the egt codes, it now is requesting 10-12lbs and my car has lost the sluggishness it most surely gained when the egts failed.

And finally, here's all the information you need to know about how to order the new circuit boards.
I was able to contact him via these emails:
sidaudis4@gmail.com
sd110@go2.pl


Forget about buying stupid oem replacement egts for > $250 a pop that will probably fail again in the near future. Spend $45 to get a new board or $84 for both boards shipped to your door. I still am amazed by how fast they got it shipped over here.

ddillenger

Very cool.

sb_gli

Credit must be given to this audizine thread

mtnsearch

Good write up and post!

SpiderBy

Just would like to say thank you to sb_gli for this write-up and to Andrzej (that guy in Poland) for the excellent product and service!

I had exactly the same fault code on my 2003 Allroad 2.7T:

17861 - Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 1 (G235)
P1453 - 35-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

You clear it and the next engine start it is immediately back.
Contacted Andrzej and he gave me this quote (I am in Seattle area):
Shipping: 3 euros.
1 x EGT plate 33 euros.
2 x EGT plate 64 euros.

Ordered one EGT plate and paid via PayPal, Andrzej shipped next day and in 12 days the postage arrived to my door step.

Yesterday I found time to remove the bad EGT sensor and do the replacement.
Everything works like a charm now! No more fault code!

Thank you guys!

sb_gli

Excellent!!!

I was just glad to find that there was a solution out there for so cheap instead of tossing another $250 part at the car.

yetimus

Thanks for posting this! I bought a couple of boards from Andrezj and installed them last weekend. No more 17861 code!

I left both sensors installed on the car when I swapped the boards. I just used small wire cutters to snip the leads on the old boards rather than try to desolder. I was amazed at how pristine the original boards looked. The worst part of this job is getting that nasty old silicone out!

Well done and thanks again...

mrnitrous422

Hi, do you happen to know if Andrezj has more EGT boards for sale?
I'm looking and so far Sid Motorsport in (Poland?) shows out of stock.
Hoping to find a source here in the states...

Thanks!

SpiderBy

Being you I would just shoot an email to Andrzej and ask directly. Not sure if anybody is selling these boards in the states.

sb_gli

even when I ordered these in the past, their website did not show them in stock. You just need to contact him via email.